F I D O N E W S --       Volume 14, Number 45          10 November 1997
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                Have you hugged a Veteran today?


                        Table of Contents
     1. EDITORIAL  ................................................  1
        Chugging along  ...........................................  1
     2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR  ....................................  2
        Ah, hindsight  ............................................  2
     3. COLUMNS  ..................................................  4
        Fidonet in Europe  ........................................  4
     4. NET HUMOR  ................................................ 10
        IE for Linux?  ............................................ 10
     5. NOTICES  .................................................. 12
        Future History  ........................................... 12
     6. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................................. 13
        Latest Greatest Software Versions  ........................ 13
     7. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY  ...................................... 17
        FidoNews PGP public-key listing  .......................... 17
     8. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 18
     9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 20
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     =================================================================
                                 EDITORIAL
     =================================================================

     Not much new in the wacky world of FidoNet this week.

     I have revamped the FidoNet World Wide Webring page with updated code
     and instructions. Hopefully, all the conflicts of directions are now
     removed and it won't confuse any more newbies to webrings.

     My thanks to Ruth Argust who spotted the conflict when I thought I'd
     covered all the bases. [grin]

     The webring now has a built-in 14 day expiration that deletes your
     Queue entry if you have not gotten your page properly coded in that
     time-frame. If you get deleted for lack of action, you can try again
     when you get the automagic email from the ring telling you your site
     has been dumped.

     The ring has been growing quite a bit of late and you can still join
     your webpage[s] to our ever-widening circle by surfing to:

        http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html

     and following the directions there.

     C.B.

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     =================================================================
                           LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
     =================================================================

     Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 22:13:23 -0800
     From: Sari Barnes <bluedog@mindspring.com>
     Organization: Oregon - USA
     To: webheads@softdisk.com
     Subject: Say what?
     Sender: owner-webheads@softdisk.com
     Reply-To: webheads@softdisk.com

     "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons."
     --Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of
         science, 1949.

     "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
     --Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

     "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and
     talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data
     processing is a fad that won't last out the year."
     --The editor in charge of business books for
          Prentice Hall, 1957

     "But what ... is it good for?"
     --Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM,
            1968, commenting on the microchip.

     "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
     --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
           Corp., 1977.

     "So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing,
     even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about
     funding us?  Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay
     our salary, we'll come work for you.'  "And they said, 'No.'

     "So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't
     need you.  You haven't got through college yet.'"
     --Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari
          and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer.

     "640K ought to be enough for anybody."
     -- Bill Gates, 1981.

     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously
     considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently
     of no value to us."
     --Western Union internal memo, 1876.

     "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value.
     Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?"
     --David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urging for
           investment in the radio in the 1920s.

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     "The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn
     better than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible."
     --A Yale University management professor in response to Fred
           Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service.
           (Smith went on to found Federal Express.)

     "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"
     --H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927.

     "I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face
     and not Gary Cooper."
     --Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in
           "Gone With The Wind."

     "A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research
     reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy
     cookies like you make."
     --Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies.

     "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."
     --Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.

     "If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment.
     The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this."
     --Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives
         for 3-M "Post-It" notepads.

     "You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development
     across all of your muscles? It can't be done. It's just a fact
     of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development
     as an unalterable condition of weight training."
     --Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem
          by inventing Nautilus.

     "Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."
     --Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.

     "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."
     --Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole
           Superieure de Guerre.

     "Everything that can be invented has been invented."
     --Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.

      -30-

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     =================================================================
                                  COLUMNS
     =================================================================

     Fidonet in Europe
     -----------------
     by Dave Meikle (2:258/69.2 , postmaster@rjambo.abel.co.uk)

     Firstly if any one sent a message to rebeljambo@unforgettable.com
     could they resubmit it to my eMAIL address above because it went down.

     AstroWars is taking off now with two people subscribing this week one
     from USA and one from Europe. I would like to whish them luck.

     If anyone would like to join here is the info again. This is the last
     time because it will get annoying. If any one wants it again they will
     need to send a message to INFOMAIL@2:258/69.69 with the subject
     Astrowars.

     Does anyone want a document on INFOMAIL? I can set it up so you can
     edit it remotely.  Just drop me a line.

     Here is the Astrowar info again for the last time:

     What is AstroWar?

             AstroWar is a play-by-email game of space conquest.  What's so
             special about this particular game? From the player's view,
             it's simple and fun.  From the game moderator or sysop's view,
             it's fully automatic, adaptable, expandable, portable and
             free!  Bear with me while I justify some of these claims...

             It's simple:  The rules and construction of this game are as
             simple as I could make them.  There is just one type of
             planet, and one type of ship.  Each planet just has a single
             statistic: production, which decides how many ships it
             produces each turn.  Ships are just single faceless, nameless
             units which are used in greater or lesser numbers in order to
             overwhelm, hold back or discourage an enemy.

             It's fun:  How can I justify this?  Well, I can't really since
             it's just my opinion, but most of the players in the beta test
             games find it quite entertaining.  Its simplicity means that
             you won't spend much time learning the rules, and you'll be
             playing properly and developing your strategies almost
             immediately. It's hardly worth setting up a practice game.

             Playing the Game

             Getting Started

             AstroWar is a simple game of space conquest, usually played by
             email.  The simplicity of the rules mean that the time taken
             to learn the game is extremely short.  However, it may take
             just as long to develop a winning strategy as it does for more
             complex games.
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             Let's take a look at the game rules before we go into details
             of how to play.  The map consists of a number of planets
             spread across a galactic map.  The number of planets and the
             size of the map are defined by the person running the game.

             There is only one type of planet, although each planet has a
             production rating.  This production rating reflects the number
             of ships that planet produces each turn, when it is owned by a
             player.  Neutral planets do not produce any ships.

             Ships are not treated individually in AstroWar.  There is only
             one type of ship, the variation being in the number of ships
             you send to the planets you are attacking.  Ships are sent in
             fleets of one or more ships, and each fleet's mission is
             decided by the number of ships sent, and the ownership of the
             planet the ships are being sent to.

             Part of the game's attraction lies in the high level of
             secrecy.  In some games, you can see the entire map when you
             start the game, and sometimes you can see where other empires
             are.  Some games are very open, and allow you to see as much
             detail about other players' empires as those players can see.

             This is not the case with AstroWar.  When you start playing
             AstroWar, you only see full details of your homeworld, and the
             positions of nearby planets.  To get more information, you
             must scout the planets you can see, and you must start to
             expand before you see planets further away.

             But I'm getting ahead of myself here, for before any of this
             becomes apparent you must first join a game.  In order to join
             a game, you must submit a 'join' request.  With this join
             request you give a name which will be used to identify your
             empire.  Your empire name can be up to 15 characters long.

             Upon successfully joining a game, you will receive
             confirmation that your request to join has been accepted.
             With this you will be given the name of your homeworld, that
             homeworld's details, and a map of nearby planets to get you
             started.  Note that homeworld planets always have a production
             of 15 ships per turn.

             There are a few cases in which a join request might fail.
             Firstly, you might choose an empire name which is already in
             use.  This is unlikely, but possible.  Another case in which a
             request to join might be rejected is when the game is full,
             i.e.  there are no planets which have not already been scouted
             or taken.  In the former case, just try to join again, with a
             different name.  In the latter case there's nothing you can
             do, except wait for the game to finish and re-start, or find
             another game.

             Scouting, Conquering and Redeployment

             The first thing you will want to do when you start a new game
             is scout one or more of the planets which were shown on your
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             first map.  To scout a planet, simply send a single ship to
             it.  When the ship arrives, you will receive details about the
             production and ownership of that planet, along with the number
             of ships currently in orbit.  The scout ship will then turn
             around and begin the return journey.

             Once you have received details about some of the nearby
             planets, you should start making your attacks.  A fleet of 2
             or more ships sent to a neutral or enemy planet constitutes
             and attack force.  Generally, you should send more ships than
             are already in orbit around a planet if you wish to take it.
             However, you can send your attacks in two or more 'waves' if
             you don't have enough ships to take the planet straight away.
             The first arrivals will reduce the enemy's numbers, so that
             the later fleets have an easier job of taking the planet.  If
             a fleet takes a planet, it is disbanded, and the ships take up
             orbit around the planet.

             You can start making attacks before you scout, but this is not
             always a good idea, particularly if you are joining a game
             which has already been running for a number of turns.  For all
             you know, an attack fleet sent out 'blind' might be travelling
             towards a planet belonging to a relatively powerful empire,
             and this is not a good way to gain allies.

             Once you have more than one planet, you may want to start
             redistributing your forces, for more effective attacks or
             defense.  Sending any number of ships from one of your planets
             to another is a normal fleet movement.  When the fleet
             arrives, it will be disbanded and the ships will join those in
             orbit around the planet.

             -A Note About Fleet Movements---------------------------------
             A fleet does not start to move towards its destination until
             the turn after it is launched.  So, for instance, if you
             launch a fleet from one planet to a planet four squares away,
             it will still be four squares away on its first turn; only in
             the next turn will it start to move.
             --------------------------------------------------------------

             Requesting Details About Your Empire

             Although the reports you receive from scouting, attacking and
             fleet movements tell you everything you need to know about
             your planets, there are times when you will want reminding
             about various aspects of your empire.  There are a couple of
             reports which you can request from AstroWar, whenever you need
             them.

             The planet list contains a list of all your planets, together
             with a reminder of the planets' positions, their production
             ratings and the number of ships in orbit around them.  Only
             your own planets are included in this list; if you want up-to-
             date information about enemy or neutral planets you must scout
             them.

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             -Turn Phases--------------------------------------------------
                 There are four phases to each AstroWar turn: Fleet
                 movement, Order processing, Ship production and Victory
                 checking, executed in that order.  Bear this order in mind
                 when submitting orders; for example, a planet report (a
                 response to a 'planet list' order) will not take into
                 account the ship production which comes later in that
                 turn.
             --------------------------------------------------------------

             The fleet list contains a list of all your fleets, with a
             reminder of their planets of origin and their destinations.
             The list also contains the number of ships in the fleets, and
             their distances from their objectives.  You can use the
             distance figure to work out how long it will be before a fleet
             arrives.

             As your empire expands, you will want to be able to see more
             of the map.  This information isn't given to you
             automatically, you must request it using the map order.  When
             you submit a map order, you must give the name of a planet
             around which the map will be centred.  You can only centre a
             map around a planet you own, so in order to begin mapping the
             entire galaxy you must start expanding your empire.

             The Message System

             In order that you can communicate with other empires, to form
             alliances, make threats or gloat over victories, there is a
             message system which passes free-form messages between
             players.

             To write to another empire, simply submit a 'write' order,
             along with the name of the empire you wish to send to, and the
             text of the message.  Next turn, that empire will receive that
             message with the your empire name identified as the writer (in
             order that he or she can reply).

             It is also possible to write a general announcement to all
             empires.  This is not always a good idea.  Usually your empire
             will be unknown to others until they see your planets, or
             receive a message from you.  Secrecy itself may often be a
             useful weapon, but writing a message to all will immediately
             reveal your existence to everyone else in the game.  Later on
             in the game, if your empire becomes powerful, you could
             perhaps use this facility as a propaganda tool.

             Finally, it is also possible to write messages to the system,
             and receive messages from the system.  Although this has no
             use in the standard game, it is there as a way of
             communicating with add-ons.  Add-ons can scan for messages to
             the system and interpret their contents as extended orders to
             access features in that add-on.  Similarly, replies or
             information generated by add-ons will be addressed as coming
             from 'the system'.

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             Winning the Game

             The standard victory conditions dictate that the empire who
             owns everybody else's homeworlds wins the game.  This is a
             change from the usual condition of conquering all of everyone
             else's planets, since that condition usually results in a
             tedious end game where the eventual victor has to mop up the
             remains of defeated empires.

             One problem is that enemy homeworlds are not identified.  You
             can assume that, in a normal game, all the homeworlds will
             have a production of 15 ships per turn.  However, not all
             planets with this production are homeworlds.  You just have to
             hunt out all the non-neutral planets with 15 production until
             you are awarded victory.

             When victory is awarded to a player, a report is sent out to
             everyone saying who the winner is.  However, the game must be
             manually stopped and restarted by the person running the game,
             so it is possible that a few turns may go by with the
             'victory' message being sent out.

             It is quite possible that victory conditions in a game have
             been disabled, making it 'open-ended'.  This means that the
             game will continue indefinitely. Our Games is Open-Ended.

             Resigning Your Position

             Once your position has become unworkable, or you want to quit
             the game for some other reason like lack of time, there is a
             'resign' command you can use.  Resigning from a game will
             cause all your planets to revert to neutral status, and will
             make all in-transit fleets wink out of existence.

             If you are going to have to stop playing a game, it's polite
             to resign properly.  If you just let your fleets build up
             uselessly, it will get in the way of legitimate players and
             ruin their enjoyment of the game.

             Orders

             This section gives a list of orders understood by the order
             processing phase of turn processing. To send an order send a
             netmail TO: Astrowar@2:258/69.69 with the SUBJECT:GAME1 and in
             the main body type one off the commands:

                 join <empire>       A join order, or join request, asking
                                     that a player be added to the game
                                     with the empire name <empire>.

                 send <n> <o> <d>    A send order.  Orders a launch of <n>
                                     ships from planet <o> to planet <d>,
                                     where <o> is owned by this empire and
                                     there are at least <n> ships in orbit.

                 planets             Requests a list of the planets owned
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                                     by this empire.

                 fleets              Requests a list of fleets belonging to
                                     this empire.

                 map <planet>        Requests a map of the area around
                                     <planet>, showing the names and
                                     positions of all planets within 7
                                     squares of this centre planet.

                 write <emp> <txt>   Write a message to empire <emp>,
                                     containing the text <txt>.  <Emp> may
                                     be an empire name, All ("*") or The
                                     System (""), and <txt> may be up to
                                     64k of text spread across multiple
                                     lines.

                 resign              Requests that this empire is removed
                                     from the game.  All planets revert to
                                     neutral ownership (with ships in orbit
                                     remaining), and all fleets will
                                     magically disappear.

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     =================================================================
                                 NET HUMOR
     =================================================================

     From: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@novia.net>
     To: "Baker, Christopher" <cbaker84@digital.net (Christopher Baker)
     Date: Tue, 28 Oct 97 10:38:22 -0600
     Reply-To: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@oasis.novia.net>
     Subject: Fwd: IE for Linux?

     ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE==================
     From: robbie@tomservo.eng.mindspring.net
     Message-ID: <19971027233102.9058.qmail@tomservo.eng.mindspring.net>
     Subject: IE for Linux?
     Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:31:02 -0500 (EST)

     With rumors about the impending doom release of Microsoft Internet
     Exploder for Linux, I decided to get a jump on things and create a man
     page for IE.

     IE has been such a security problem for Windoze users, that it stands
     to reason that Microsoft won't deprive the Linux/UNIX community of
     such quality work.

     (I was going to save this and release it as an April Fools joke for
     98, but I couldn't wait that long.. :-)

     Robbie

     ---------------------------


     IE(1)                                                   IE(1)

     NAME
           ie - Microsoft Internet Explorer

     SYNOPSIS
           ie [ -acfghkp ] [ -m alternate-passwd-file ] [ -length of time ]

     DESCRIPTION
           Ie is the web browser. The only web browser. Netscape is
           irrelevant. Opera is irrelevant. Ie is your master. Kneel.

           There are two ways to use ie: non-executed binary and insecure
           mode. The non-executed binary is the mode ie ships in. There are
           no flags or directions for use in this mode.

             Options are:

             -a

             -c      Clear filesystem. Ie will delete all files for which
                     it has write permission on all mounted filesystems.
                     After the first pass, Ie will begin attempts at
                     obtaining root access so that the remaining files can
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                     be removed.

             -f      Same as -c, except that ie will immediately begin
                     attempting root access, and will newfs all mounted
                     filesystems.

             -h      Hack. Lets you link to other systems running ie and
                     obtain their passwd files.

             -k      Randomly coredump. If you specify a valid mailbox name
                     in parens, ie will mail the coredump to them.

             -p      Post /etc/passwd to alt.2600.

             -m [alternate]  Gives you the opportunity to specify an
                             alternate passwd file to post.

             -length How long should ie run crack on the passwd file before
                     attempting to post?

     AUTHOR
             The usual gang of idiots.

     BUGS
             See printed ie documentation: "Problems with IE", volumes
             1-14, availible in hardcover from Microsoft Press.

             The -g option is not implemented.

     FILES
             /etc/passwd             System password file.
             /usr/local/bin/crack    crack binary.
             /usr/local/bin/ie       IE binary.

     DIAGNOSTICS
             If ie crashes, simply reboot system to restore stability.

     BUG REPORTS TO
             /dev/null

     COPYRIGHTS
             Microsoft Corporation. Don't even THINK about crossing us.
             (This disclaimer does not apply to Ms. Janet Reno).

     ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================

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                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                                Future History

      1 Dec 1997
        World AIDS Day.

     10 Dec 1997
        Nobel Day, Sweden.

     12 Jan 1998
        HAL 9000 is one year old today.

     30 Apr 1998
        Queens Day, Holland.

     22 May 1998
        Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.

     14 Sep 1998
        Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].

     22 Sep 1998
        First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.

      1 Dec 1998
        Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
        Tom Jennings.

     24 Jul 1999
        XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].

     31 Dec 1999
        Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.

      1 Jan 2000
        The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.

      1 Jun 2000
        EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.

     15 Sep 2000
        Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.

      1 Jan 2001
        This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.

     -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
        Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.

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     =================================================================
                         FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================

     [from 1441 - Ed.]

     Latest Greatest Software Versions
     by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264

     Hmm. Not much to say.

     -=- Snip -=-

     Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column

     OS Platform                             :
     Software package name                   :
     Version                                 :
     Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
     Freeware / Shareware / Commercial?      :
     Author / Support staff contact name     :
     Author / Support staff contact node     :
     Magic name (at the above-listed node)   :

     Please include a sentence describing what the package does.

     Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264

     -=- Snip -=-

     MS-DOS:
     Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Act-Up         4.6      G D Chris Gunn        1:15/55     ACT-UP
     ALLFIX         4.40     T S Harald Harms      2:281/415   ALLFIX
     Announcer      1.11     O S Peter Karlsson    2:206/221   ANNOUNCE
     BGFAX          1.60     O S B.J. Guillot      1:106/400   BGFAX
     Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
     BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOS_260.ZIP
     BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_DOS
     CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
     CheckPnt       1.0a     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     CHECKPNT
     FastEcho       1.45a    T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FASTECHO
     FastEcho/16    1.45a    T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FE16
     FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLSTD
     FidoBBS (tm)   12u      B S Ray Brown         1:1/117     FILES
     FrontDoor      2.12     M S JoHo              2:201/330   FD
     FrontDoor      2.20c    M C JoHo              2:201/330   FDINFO
     GEcho          1.00     T S Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
     GEcho/Plus     1.11     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
     GEcho/Pro      1.20     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
     GIGO           07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler      1:1/141     INFO
     GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GED
     GoldED/386     2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEX
     GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
     GoldNODE       2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEN
     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 14                  10 Nov 1997


     Imail          1.75     T S Michael McCabe    1:1/121     IMAIL
     ImCrypt        1.04     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     IMCRYPT
     InfoMail/86    1.21     O F Damian Walker     2:2502/666  INFOMAIL
     InfoMail/386   1.21     O F Damian Walker     2:2502/666  INFO386
     InterEcho      1.19     T C Peter Stewart     1:369/35    IEDEMO
     InterMail      2.29k    M C Peter Stewart     1:369/35    IMDEMO
     InterPCB       1.52     O S Peter Stewart     1:369/35    INTERPCB
     IPNet          1.11     O S Michele Stewart   1:369/21    IPNET
     JD's CBV       1.4      O S John Dailey       1:363/277   CBV
     Jelly-Bean     1.01     T S Rowan Crowe       3:635/727   JELLY
     Jelly-Bean/386 1.01     T S Rowan Crowe       3:635/727   JELLY386
     JMail-Hudson   2.81     T S Jason Steck       1:285/424   JMAIL-H
     JMail-Goldbase 2.81     T S Jason Steck       1:285/424   JMAIL-G
     MakePl         1.9      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     MAKEPL
     Marena         1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     MARENA
     Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAX
     Max User Ed.   0.18     O F Larry Cooke       1:300/53    MUE
     McMail         1.0      M S Michael McCabe    1:1/148     MCMAIL
     MDNDP          1.18     N S Bill Doyle        1:388/7     MDNDP
     Msged          4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41D.ZIP
     Msged/386      4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41X.ZIP
     NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEFD
     NorthStar      3.31.29  B S A&B Darin         1:285/82    NSTAR
     Opus CBCS      1.79     B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14    OPUS
     O/T-Track      2.66     O S Peter Hampf       2:241/1090  OT
     PcMerge        2.8      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     PCMERGE
     PlatinumXpress 1.3      M C Gary Petersen     1:290/111   PX13TD.ZIP
     QuickBBS       2.81     B S Ben Schollnick    1:2613/477  QUICKBBS
     RAR            2.01     C S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    RAR
     RemoteAccess   2.50     B S Mark Lewis        1:3634/12   RA
     Searchlight    4.5      B S Paul Casey        1:343/117   DEMO450.ZIP
     Searchlight    5.02     B C Paul Casey        1:343/117   SLBBS50.TXT
     Silver Xpress
       Door         5.4      O S Gary Petersen     1:290/111   FILES
       Reader       4.4      O S Gary Petersen     1:290/111   SXR44.ZIP
     Spitfire       3.51     B S Mike Weaver       1:3670/3    SPITFIRE
     Squish         1.11     T P Tech              1:249/106   SQUISH
     StealTag UK    1.c...   O F Fred Schenk       2:284/412   STEAL_UK
     StealTag NL    1.c...   O F Fred Schenk       2:284/412   STEAL_NL
     T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAIL
     Telegard       3.02     B F Tim Strike        1:259/423   TELEGARD
     Terminate      5.00     O S Bo Bendtsen       2:254/261   TERMINATE
     Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
     TosScan        1.01     T C JoHo              2:201/330   TSINFO
     TransNet       1.00     G S Marc S. Ressl     4:904/72    TN100ALL.ZIP
     TriBBS         11.0     B S Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRIBBS
     TriDog         11.0     T F Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRIDOG
     TriToss        11.0     T S Gary Price        1:3607/26   TRITOSS
     WaterGate      0.93     G S Robert Szarka     1:320/42    WTRGATE
     WWIV           4.24a    B S Craig Dooley      1:376/126   WWIV
     WWIVTOSS       1.36     T S Craig Dooley      1:376/126   WWIVTOSS
     xMail          2.00     T S Thorsten Franke   2:2448/53   XMAIL
     XRobot         3.01     O S JoHo              2:201/330   XRDOS

     OS/2:
     Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 15                  10 Nov 1997


     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     ALLFIX/2       1.10     T S Harald Harms      2:281/415   AFIXOS2
     BGFAX          1.60     O S B.J. Guillot      1:106/400   BGFAX
     Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
     BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BOS2_260.ZIP
     BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_OS2
     CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
     FastEcho       1.45a    T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400  FE2
     FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLST
     FleetStreet    1.20     O S Michael Hohner    2:2490/2520 FLEET
     FP-OS/2        97-03-21 O F Mike Bilow        323/107     FPOS2
     GEcho/Pro      1.20     T C Bob Seaborn       1:140/12    GECHO
     GIGO           07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler      1:1/141     INFO
     GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEO
     GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
     GoldNODE       2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEN
     ImCrypt        1.04     O G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     IMCRYPT
     Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAXP
     Max User Ed.   0.18     O F Larry Cooke       1:300/53    MUEP
     Msged/2        4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41O.ZIP
     NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEF
     PcMerge        2.3      N G Michiel vd Vlist  2:500/9     PCMERGE
     RAR            2.01     C S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    RAR2
     Squish         1.11     T P Tech              1:249/106   SQUISHP
     T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAIL2
     Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
     WaterGate      0.93     G S Robert Szarka     1:320/42    WTRGATE
     XRobot         3.01     O S JoHo              2:201/330   XROS2

     Windows (16-bit apps):
     Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     BeeMail        1.0      M C Andrius Cepaitis  2:470/1     BEEMAIL
     FrontDoor APX  1.12     P S Mats Wallin       2:201/329   FDAPXW

     Windows (32-bit apps):
     Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     Argus 95/IP    2.704    M S Max Masyutin      2:469/77    A9I
     Argus NT/IP    2.704    M S Max Masyutin      2:469/77    ANI
     BeeMail        1.0      M C Andrius Cepaitis  2:470/1     BEEMAIL
     Binkley Docs   2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BDOC_260.ZIP
     BinkleyTerm    2.60     M F Bob Juge          1:1/102     BW32_260.ZIP
     BinkleyTerm-XE XR5      M F Thomas Waldmann   2:2474/400  BTXE_W32
     CFRoute        0.92     O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70    CFR
     FastLst        1.36     N S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   FASTLSTW
     GoldED         2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEO
     GoldED Docs    2.50     O S Len Morgan        1:203/730   GEM
     Maximus        3.01     B P Tech              1:249/106   MAXN
     Msged/NT       4.10     O G Andrew Clarke     3:635/728   MSGED41W.ZIP
     NEF            2.38     O S Alberto Pasquale  2:332/504   NEFW
     PlatinumXpress 2.00     M C Gary Petersen     1:290/111   PXW-INFO
     Searchlight    5.02     B C Paul Casey        1:343/117   SLBBS50.TXT
     T-Mail         2.600    M S Ron Dwight        2:220/22    TMAILNT
     WinFOSSIL/95   1.12 r4  F S Bryan Woodruff    1:343/294   WNFOSSIL.ZIP
     WinFOSSIL/NT   1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff    1:343/294   NTFOSSIL.ZIP
     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 16                  10 Nov 1997


     Unix:
     Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     ifmail         2.12     M G Eugene Crosser    2:293/2219  IFMAIL
     ifmail-tx      ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga   2:293/2219  IFMAILTX
     ifmail-tx.rpm  ...tx8.6 M G Pablo Saratxaga   2:293/2219  IFMAILTX.RPM
     Msged          4.00     O G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   MSGED
     Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK

     Amiga:
     Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     CrashMail      1.23     T X Fredrik Bennison  2:205/324   CRASHMAIL
     CrashTick      1.1      O F Fredrik Bennison  2:205/324   CRASHTICK
     DLG Pro BBOS   1.15     B C Holly Sullivan    1:202/720   DLGDEMO
     GMS            1.1.85   M S Mirko Viviani     2:331/213   GMS
     Msged          4.00     O G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   MSGED
     Tobruk         0.33     T G Paul Edwards      3:711/934   TOBRUK
     TrapDoor       1.86.b2  M S Maximilian Hantsch
                                                   2:310/6     TRAPDOOR
     TrapToss       1.50     T S Rene Hexel        2:310/6     TRAPTOSS

     Atari:
     Program Name   Version  F C Contact Name      Node        Magic Name
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     ApplyList      1.00     N F Daniel Roesen     2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
     BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2  M F Bill Scull        1:363/112   BINKLEY
     BTNC           2.00     N G Daniel Roesen     2:2432/1101 BTNC
     JetMail        0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker     2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
     Semper         0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten      2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA

     Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
               C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
               be listed by the first match.

     Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
           X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source

     Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264

     -----------------------------------------------------------------

     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 17                  10 Nov 1997


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     File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] or download it from the
     Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 anytime except 0100-0130 ET and Zone
     1 ZMH at 1200-9600+ HST/V32B. The FidoNews key is also available on
     the FidoNews homepage listed in the Masthead information.

     -----------------------------------------------------------------
     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 18                  10 Nov 1997


     =================================================================
                            FIDONET BY INTERNET
     =================================================================

     This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
     of this appearance.

     ============

     FidoNet:

       Homepage     http://www.fidonet.org
       FidoNews     http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html
       HTML FNews   http://www.fidonews.org
       WWW sources  http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
       FTSC page    http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/ftsc/ftscmirr.htm
       Echomail     http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
       WebRing      http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html

     ============

     Zone 1:       http://www.z1.fidonet.org

       Region 10:  http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html

       Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/

       Region 13:  http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm

       Region 14:  [disappeared?]

       Region 15:  [disappeared?]

       Region 16:  http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm

       Region 17:  http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
           REC17:  http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/

       Region 18:  http://www.citicom.com/fido.html

       Region 19:  http://www.compconn.net

     ============

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org

     ZEC2:         http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm
     Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/

       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)

       Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)

       Region 25:
                   http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254

     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 19                  10 Nov 1997


       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm

       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (in French)

       Region 30:  http://www.fidonet.ch  (in Swiss)

       Region 33:  http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)

       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (in Spanish)
           REC34:  http://pobox.com/~chr

       Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/

       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html

       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)

       Region 48:  http://www.fidonet.org.pl

     ============

     Zone 3:       http://www.z3.fidonet.org

     ============

     Zone 4:       (not yet listed)

       Region 90:
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)

     ============

     Zone 5:       http://w3.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm

     ============

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org

       Region 65:  http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (China)

     ============

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     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 20                  10 Nov 1997


     =================================================================
                           FIDONEWS INFORMATION
     =================================================================

     ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------

     Editor: Christopher Baker

     Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
                       Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
                       Donald Tees

     "FidoNews Editor"
         FidoNet  1:1/23
         BBS  1-904-409-7040,  300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(ds)

      more addresses:
         Christopher Baker -- 1:18/14, cbaker84@digital.net
                                       cbaker84@fidonews.org
                                       cbaker84@aol.com
                                       cbaker84@msn.com

     (Postal Service mailing address)
         FidoNews Editor
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         Edgewater, FL 32132-0471
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     voice:  1-904-409-3040 [1400-2100 ET only, please]
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     ------------------------------------------------------

     FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
     INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system.  It is a compilation
     of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
     authorized agents.  The contribution of articles to this compilation
     does not diminish the rights of the authors.  OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
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     Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
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     use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
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                            =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=

     OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
     form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
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     PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
     address.  File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue.  File-request
     FNEWS for the current month in one archive.  Or file-request specific
     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 21                  10 Nov 1997


     back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSEnn.ZIP] for a
     particular Issue.  Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
     where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
     current year [7], i.e., FNWSAUG7.ZIP for all the Issues from Aug 97.

     Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
     1 - 14 for 1984 - 1997, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
     size from 48K to 1.4M.


     INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:

                          http://www.fidonews.org
                          http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
                          ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
                          ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/

                                      *=*=*

     You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:

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     You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
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     with a Subject line of: help

     and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
     instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
     respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
     www.fidonews.org.

                                      *=*=*

     You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:

                          http://www.fidonews.org

     STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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     Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
     for that year's issues.  The total set is currently about 11 Megs.
     FIDONEWS 14-45               Page 22                  10 Nov 1997


                                 =*=*=*=

     The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
     available almost immediately after publication on the Editor's new
     homepage on the World Wide Web at:

                  http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html

     There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
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                            =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=

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                                *=*=*=*=*

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     from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC".  ALL Zone Coordinators
     also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.

     "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
     trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
     and are used with permission.

             "Disagreement is actually necessary,
              or we'd all have to get in fights
              or something to amuse ourselves
              and create the requisite chaos."
                                -Tom Jennings

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