Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 94 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- LOOSE THREADS ============= You may not understand all this. *I* certainly don't. If you are a newcomer to reading Conspiracy Nation (CN), you will probably be even moreso in the dark. What follows are lines of inquiry, "loose threads," in a developing story. For further background, readers are referred to the CN archives at ftp.shout.net in sub-directory pub/users/bigred and to Professor J. Orlin Grabbe's archives. See especially the Grabbe material available at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html More background to this story will be provided soon in CN. Loose Thread #1 --------------- On November 11, 1996, The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com) published a story, based on a recently declassified National Security Agency (NSA) document, "Vince Foster Involved in NSA Computer Espionage Issues." It reports on a May 1993 meeting involving Bernard Nussbaum, Vincent Foster, Webster Hubbell, John Rogovin, and Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens. The secret meeting was held at NSA headquarters. The presence of Foster at the meeting, in which cryptology and intelligence gathering were the topics, shows that Foster was on the inside of top secret NSA intelligence discussions. Yet, according to the article from the Washington Weekly, the White House has tried to conceal Foster's ties to NSA. Then, by November 18, 1996, The Washington Weekly had obtained an additional 540 pages of documents from NSA in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. The information showed that the U.S. Embassy in London had been highly interested in stories, regarding the by now deceased Vince Foster, being reported in British newspapers. The embassy was sending their then-secret reports to, among several U.S. agencies, the National Security Agency. In "Plot to Spy on Banks Outlined in White House Email," Professor Grabbe includes a document declassified by the National Archives on August 22, 1994. In that document, a memo from David Wigg to Oliver North, North's connection to the tracking of "financial flows... through the 400 or so principal banks that make up the interbank market" is pointed to. In other words, a plan to spy on banks was in the works. Oliver North as moneyman is also shown in an article by Gene Tatum, "A CIA Funding Operation." (See CN 9.93) In that report, Tatum claims that "North delivered $4 billion in U.S. currency to Iran. Iran gave North $8 billion in super bills in exchange for the $4 billion in good U.S. currency. North then delivered the $8 billion in super bills back to the Banco Nacional de Panama." Loose Thread #2 --------------- In CN 9.90, I mentioned that I had been contacted by someone who urged a prompt meeting at the Indiana border. This person has been previously-mentioned in CN: "Mr. Boderby" (not his real name.) Working to facilitate the meeting was "Mr. Royce" (not his real name; see my interview of Joseph Andreuccetti, archived at the prairienet site, for mention of "Mr. Royce," who dined with myself, Sherman Skolnick, and Joseph Andreuccetti at a restaurant in Calumet City, Illinois, in April of 1995. The relevant material is accessed as follows: (a) telnet prairienet.org (b) logon as "visitor" (c) "go citcom" (d) look in the Whitewater sub-menu for "The Andreuccetti Affair.") Loose Thread #3 --------------- This past week I received via U.S. mail a document, from "Mr. Boderby," purporting to be an article written by J. Orlin Grabbe, "The FBI Conspiracy Against Chuck Hayes." *If* Grabbe is the actual author, the former Wharton professor is saying that "The highest levels of the FBI are engaged in a conspiracy to obstruct justice by denying Charles S. Hayes the right to legal representation, by denying him the right to any discovery materials, and by denying him the opportunity to prepare a defense." Hayes is supposedly a deep-level former and/or current intelligence operative who has been acting as a renegade, working against government corruption and without the blessing of that same government. Regardless of unsavoury connections, Hayes is entitled to the same due process protections as any other citizen. Or can the government now just deny due process to whomever it wishes, then ameliorate the outrage by merely leaking that, "It's O.K. This guy was with the CIA?" In the document sent to me by "Boderby" and apparently written by Grabbe, we learn that as of November 22, 1996, Chuck Hayes has as his legal representative a man named Jim Vassilos. I can't give the specifics of the connection, but Vassilos *is* connected to "Mr. Boderby." Another loose thread is Vassilos's connection to ex-NYPD Vice Squad Detective James Rothstein. In a videotape of a lecture by Rothstein, he mentions that Vassilos accompanied him on a trip he made to Oklahoma City with purpose of privately investigating the April 19, 1995 bombings at the Murrah Building. Loose Thread #4 --------------- In a conversation today (Jan. 5, 1997) with Sherman Skolnick, the Chicago investigator voiced suspicion of alternative journalists who suddenly "popped up from nowhere" around the time of the Oklahoma City bombings. This was in response to my own question as to Skolnick's assertion that the controversial Hayes/Norman/Grabbe "Angel of Death" story is just a melodramatic embellishment of Skolnick's previous material. Skolnick says he has no private vendetta against either Grabbe, Norman, or Hayes, but that their embellishment of his story is subtly misleading. Regarding Mr. Norman, Skolnick thinks that he was a "babe in the woods" in espionage matters when he was taken in by Hayes's manipulation. Regarding Grabbe, Skolnick puts him in the category of those who "popped up from nowhere" around the time of the OKC bombings. Did Grabbe suddenly appear on Internet right about that time? I don't recall. Professor Grabbe will perhaps respond by hinting, as he has to me in the past, that Skolnick is somehow connected to the Mossad. Anticipating this reaction, I asked Mr. Skolnick how he would respond to that. Skolnick pointed out that, just because he is a traditional Jew, that doesn't necessarily mean he is involved with the Mossad. He further pointed out that, in the past, he has been a leading critic of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and that as far back as 1970 he had identified ADL as a spy operation with links to the FBI. For its part, according to Skolnick, ADL contends that the Chicago underground journalist is a renegade Jew out to damage Israel. ADL has even tried to block his popular cable television program, says Skolnick. My own thinking on this is that to label Mr. Skolnick as involved with the Mossad, based only on the fact that he is Jewish, is something unworthy of a keen intellect such as Grabbe's. The "embellishment" of Skolnick's material is summarized by him as follows. James Norman had been calling Skolnick from time to time. Among Norman's questions were inquiries as to Skolnick's "BCCI bribe list" story. Norman reportedly asked Skolnick, in relation to his publication on Internet of the names of 22 U.S. Senators allegedly involved, "You've got a story on the BCCI bribe list with *22* names? Where are the other names?" Skolnick says he had published an incomplete list of names as a way to test Norman and others. Norman reportedly read some of the remaining names. Skolnick's complete list of names *had* been faxed to The Spotlight in 1991 but Spotlight did not publish the actual list of names, just the general story itself. It seems likely that part of the actual list found its way from there into Norman's hands. How is the Norman/Grabbe/Hayes "embellishment" of Skolnick's story misleading? One thing said to be wrong is the assertion that Hayes and the "Fifth Column" did not keep the appropriated money for itself, but rather turned it over to a U.S. Treasury holding account. In an interview I had with retired detective Rothstein, he also expressed skepticism about that aspect of the story. Mr. Skolnick's sources contend that no such money was transferred to a Treasury holding account. But more fundamentally, the story is partly wrong in that it diverts attention from the Bank of England and from Cayman Islands financial nuclei and focuses on Swiss banks. The BCCI bribe list was reportedly accidentally made available to the public for 30 days (until the mistake of making the list public was rectified) at the Bank of England. *This*, says Skolnick, is the real story; that U.S. Congresspersons had been bought off by BCCI, with many trails of that corruption leading to *London*. It is widely known that BCCI *did* in fact spread its money around with said purpose. The widespread retirements by U.S. Senators and Representatives, with so many saying they have decided they want to "spend more time with their families," may have been due to pressure from news outlets knowledgeable about the said "BCCI bribe list." It appears *that* possibility of imminent exposure by news outlets, and not a masked "Lone Ranger" (Hayes) and his helper "Tonto" (Norman), is the real cause of the recent wave of retirements in Washington, D.C. Mr. Skolnick says that persons wanting to subtly twist his stories to their own purposes is not new to him. When he had begun reporting his stories on Bill Clinton's trip to Moscow during his student days, Skolnick perceived pressure from Media Bypass Magazine to play up the angle of "Clinton is a communist." 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