1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 *********************** INSTALLED: 25 OCT 84 ********************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day system operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 Leonard: I am reminded of a saying by Mr. Ford that went something like 21 'If I want an engineer, I hire one, not teach myself how to be one.' 22 I agree that the President shouldn't be concerned about every detail. 23 However, he should have at least a minimal understanding of the scope 24 of what is going on, and I don't think Reagan does. He has delagated 25 every aspect of the office to his underlings, and doesn't keep up with 26 what they are doing. Indeed, if what I have heard is true, he doesn't 27 even try to (Re: his sleeping during cabinet meetings.) Mondale on the 28 other hand I find to be very out of touch with reality. If he truely 29 believes as he has stated that the Russians won't build satilite weapons 30 if we don't. This despite the fact that they are doing so right now, 31 and have never in the past stopped building weapons just because we 32 did. As a matter of fact, they used the opertunity during the Carter years 33 to catch up with the US and in some aspects move ahead. Nor am I in favour 34 of Mondale's idea of taking money out of my pocket to feed his special 35 programs. I doubt very much that it will be used to affect the debt 36 given what I've seen the Democates do in the past. They are more 37 interested in spending money then trying to figure out where it will 38 come from. Increasing the money flow to uncle sam will only increase 39 the outflow. Besides, it doesn't really matter much if the money goes 40 out of my pocket to uncle, or never gets there in the first place, 41 I still can't use it. And when you get down to the bottom, that is 42 what concerns me, how much USEABLE money I have. 43 ****************************** CISTOP MIKEY *****************************: 44 Anybody got any ideas as to what the incomplete tirade about the "holocaust" 45 on drive b is/was about? 46 ________________________________Leonard_________________________________________ 47 *************************************************************************: 48 Leonard: I don't know, but it was a good start. Even a good deal of truth 49 to it. Say, I wonder what the Rashneeshee's are going to do now that it 50 looks like they won't make the election? Being the type of people they are, 51 I'm sure they will find some other trouble to get into. 52 *************************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************** 53 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 54 I too find Reagan's John Wayne stance in foreign policy to be an overriding 55 concern. It is of little comfort even to the few benefitted by supply side 56 economics to drive to a nuclear holocaust in a late-model car. If the only 57 consideration you bring to the voting booth is the amount of useable money 58 you have, it is just as well that you are not participating in choosing our 59 government. 60 RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR AATW RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 61 ************************************************************************* 62 Obviously you can't read, I said it before, and I will say one more time. 63 I am voting, but not for YOUR idea of a candidate. I am very interested 64 it letting those that be know my feelings. Copping out and voting for 65 Fritz or Ronnie will not do that. That would only cause me to be one of 66 the mindless sheep that assumes you must vote for A or B or it will be 67 of no value. NOT TRUE!!! Now I am not so stupid as to beleive that my 68 voting for Mr. Non-of-the-above will make a major change, but then neither 69 will your voting for Fritz either. So instead, I have opted to make the 70 best use of my voting right to make as strong a statement about my feelings 71 that I can. Blending into the mass of sheep voting for A or B does not 72 do that. Rest assured, I will be voting for other offices as well, it 73 is only the presidency that I find neither candidate that has been placed 74 on the block to be acceptable to me. And I refuse to bow down to your 75 insinuation that I should vote for one of them just because you think I 76 should. By the very fact that I am intending to place my vote in a way 77 that must be counted, it insures that it will be counted in a form I 78 can accept. Which is better then not voting at all. Also, I don't know 79 where you get the idea that all I care about is how much money I have. 80 The point I was making if you go and reread the msg again is that I 81 don't see any difference between Reagan and Fritz economically. Either 82 way I loose. There are many other things I consider important if you 83 were to read my other msgs. I fully realize that Ronnie or Fritz will 84 be the next pres. (probably Ronnie given the lastest polls) but in my 85 opinion we lose in either case. 86 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 87 P.S. When was the last time you wrote your congressman? Did you know 88 that writing your congressman can have a bigger effect on his decisions 89 then anything else you can do? I consider this to be a far more effective 90 tool then to just vote for another carbon copy. 91 A letter can have the power of as much as 10 to 100 or more votes. 92 ********************************************************************* 93 I am looking for techuincal information, wiring and parts info, on the 94 installation of a reset circuit for the resetting of an IMBM PC without 95 power-down. I have been told that there is a circuit available but have been 96 unable to find it. If you have such information please contact Robert 97 King (503) 227-7126. (Voice Only ) 98 help 99 I am looking for information, parts and wiring info, on the installation 100 of a single button reset circuit for the resetting of an IBM/PC without 101 power-down. I have been told that there is such a circuit available but have 102 been unable to obtain any information. If you can help, please contact Robert 103 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 104 I'll leave the piper contentedly stuffing his face on the adventure to stop 105 in at the debate. 106 First --BRAVO MIKEY!!! I fully intend to vote in the same manner. I cannot 107 in clear conscience vote for the incompetent -- oops, incumbent president. 108 Sure, it's true. He's competent as a figurehead and does a good job as long 109 as he gets at least one chance to rehearse his lines. We have very little 110 question as to who bought and paid for him, and who is reaping the benifits of 111 his years in office. On the other side, we have Fritz the 'Crat. I shan't 112 get into his supposed qualifictions other than to look at the manuvering that 113 it took for him to get to be the party nominee. The stuff that shows on the 114 surface indicates that the SOB is about as slimy, unprincipled, and morally 115 taineted as any other politician. I find the thought of him and ms. rich b... 116 rather unsettling. I doubt that he is as good an actor as rotten Ronnie, so 117 is less likely to prove a popular figurehead. He has promised the moon to 118 every special intrest group that he could contact -- and all those folks will 119 want to call in the debt if he gets the job. Yuchh. 120 Between rotten Ronnie and Fritz the 'Crat there's no choice -- NoneOfTheAbove 121 will be my choice as well. 122 Economics -- what we're reaping now is the effects of the Vietnam war. We 123 squandered too much of our nation's wealth in the jungles over there -- poured 124 too much of our national output, manpower and morale into a struggle that was 125 basically none of our business. We fought that war on credit, and the bills 126 have been coming due a long time. We never paid them, they still exist, and 127 the interest on the debt keeps building up. I can't blame either party for 128 this mess -- both were equally guilty and ready to jump into a war that they 129 thought would offer some measure of economic stimulus. It didn't. 130 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 131 Sorry, Mike, but 'none of the above' is not a vote that will carry a 132 message to any politician; they know that only the winner in any election 133 counts, so any vote that doesn't affect who wins doesn't count. It can 134 be done any way you like- don't vote at all, vote for Donald Duck, none- 135 of-the-above, or vote for a certain loser- they are all the same, throwing 136 your vote away. Only a vote that threatens to alter the outcome is a vote. 137 Besides, a vote that obviously (to the politicos) isn't valid implies to 138 them a politically incompetent, and this is not what you want. 139 I know it means something to you, but communication requires both that 140 you say something, and that you say it in a way that can be understood 141 by whomever you are trying to talk to. Of course this is something that 142 a lot of politicians have trouble with too. A vote for Fritz is a vote 143 against Ronnie, a vote for no-one is a zero. I know you don't like 144 either of them, neither do I, but ..... 145 ..................................BAD................................... 146 You are wrong. Sure, it doesn't count much, but they do take notice of it. 147 Maybe you don't remember the big worry about the increase in libertarian 148 votes, and independant votes and even Mickey Mouse votes last time. 149 And I very strongly disagree they see it as political incompetence, not 150 voting at all yes, but not voting for an alternate. Now like I said 151 before, I recognize that it won't make a whole lot of difference to 152 the outcome, but then niether would my vote make any real difference 153 if I were to vote for someone I cann't accept. At least I will be placing 154 my vote in a form that I can accept. A vote for Mr. None-of-the-above 155 is a vote against both Ronnie and Fritz not a zero vote. Voting for 156 someone I don't wan't is the zero vote. I would have wasted my right 157 to vote on something I don't believe in, and I refuse to do that. 158 Politicians do care about the people and how they feel. I know it 159 doesn't seem like it sometimes, but they do, because they know that 160 if they get too far out of line they won't get elected next time, or 161 worse get booted out immediately. Sure my vote for Mr. None-of-the-above 162 is a drop in the bucket. But at least maybe I'll get the bucket wet 163 instead of being lost in the ocean of votes by the other sheep. 164 And like I said above, if you REALLY are interested in your government, 165 you should write your congressman and tell him how you feel. Be they 166 republican or Democrate they listen to letters, because if you were 167 concerned enough to write a letter, they know that it is a subject of 168 importance to you. 169 Waving the flag once every four years hardly qualifies anyone as being 170 politically aware. 171 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 172 4$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 173 174 ***** $75,000 REWARD ********* 175 176 177 TO ANYONE WHO CAN PROVE THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE 178 179 PURPOSE OF KILLING HUMAN BEINGS EXISTED AT OR IN 180 181 AUSCHWITZ CONCENTRATION CAMP 182 183 DURING WORLD WAR II. 184 185 FOR DETAILS CONTACT: 186 187 Institute for Historical Review 188 P>O> Box 1306 189 Torrance, California 90505 190 191 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 192 193 194 To the above: I have just one question. What qualifies as "proof"? Testimony 195 by the survivors? Testimony at the Nuremburg trials? Or something else? 196 (by the way, I thought that even the GERMANS who were on trial had admitted 197 to such things, but tried to excuse it as "only following orders"?) 198 I am willing to be convinced, but I'd like to see some evidence for your side. 199 Give me some references that can be found in the library or obtained thru 200 library exchange. 201 I do not believe that you are correct, but I support your right to ask 202 "uncomfortable" questions. 203 Mikey: WIf I set "LF N" will I still get embedded linefeeds (lf chars in the 204 middle of the line?) 205 __________________________________Leonard_______________________________________ 206 ______________________________________________________________________________ 207 The Game 208 "Something's wrong with the chessboard. My woman doesn't have any 209 feathers. And your dart needs sharpening.", said one of the three players, 210 pointing one hand accusingly at the playing field, and waving the other with 211 motions of disgust. 212 I was above such simple bickering, mainly because I was sitting this 213 game out. But it wasn't hard to remember how hot the brain gets; how steamed 214 the emotions become when one gets involved in *The Game*. 215 No one really knows the origins of *The Game*. Some say it was a 216 conglomeration of many games. An effort by the ruling Upper Crust to keep 217 the working Normals in line by giving them something complex to do in their 218 Off Time. There were many ideas, but no one really knew for sure. 219 The argument at the table was getting louder, and the attention of 220 more and more non-playing Normals was diverted to the three participants. A 221 question of equipment condition seemed to be the main obstacle to *Good Play*, 222 which was always the desired goal in any round of *The Game*. But some players 223 would find any excuse to stall to give them a chance to rethink strategy, for 224 the other more important goal of *The Game* was *To Win*. 225 Milt, a tall lanky male in his late teens was making most of the noise. 226 His left partner was a female Normal named Teed, and her left partner was 227 a quiet seemingly detached from the action Normal named Fife. 228 Fife sat quietly while Milt gestured and spouted injustice about 229 everything. Teed tried to calm Milt, but to no avail. Pushing his chair back, 230 Fife stood up, revealing a muscular stature built on an enormous frame. He 231 continued to stand with arms crossed until the others noticed him and 232 quickly ceased their argument. Every eye in the Game Room was on Fife. His 233 lips, unaccustomed to speech, moved, but were not accompanied by sound. Still 234 the room hung on Fife's every movement. When at last his self-imposed silence 235 lifted, he uttered in a whisper like voice, "On with *The Game*." 236 Fife returned to his chair, and the three resumed play. Never before 237 has I witnessed what in Fife's case could only be called an outburst. Fife 238 was not a talker. He was a heavy worker who toiled deep in the Mines digging 239 mineral deposits for Upper Crust amenities. Only the strongest worked this 240 type of job. Only the strongest and the quietest. 241 The game continued without further interruption, and the audience, made 242 up entirely of non-playing Normals, returned their attentions to their own 243 little conversations, which not unexpectedly, centered almost exclusively on 244 Game Strategy. 245 I, on the other hand, was interested in this particular game. From 246 examining the board positions, I decided that Fife held no particular point of 247 power, but his position was not without merit. It was painfully apparent that 248 Milt was the player in imminent trouble. His board position was very weak, 249 and his playing skills were deteriorating has his playing pieces decreased 250 in position and declined in number. Teed appeared to have the best position 251 of all, but would she capitalize? 252 *The Game* raged for hours, and I made several mental notes of 253 possible mistakes by the three players. One never knew who would eventually 254 show up as an opponent. It was a good idea to have as much background infor- 255 mation as possible. 256 A yell from the table tore my gaze from the small Play-Stat board in 257 front of me to the table where the action was heating up. Milt was standing 258 now, and a quick scan of the board told me why; he had been eliminated. He 259 sank back down in his chair, his eyes never leaving the playing field where 260 his pieces now stood completely captured. Fife and Teed continued, but it 261 was now obvious that Fife was on A Roll, and it was only a matter of minutes 262 before Teed was gone too. 263 After *The Game* was closed, and the losers removed from the building, 264 I approached Fife. Crossing in front of him as to not surprise him, I asked, 265 "You knew, when you stood up. You knew, didn't you?" 266 "Yes.", he replied in a low raspy voice. "I knew I had them. I knew 267 I would win. I knew I would live to play *The Game* again. I knew...", his 268 voice trailed off, and he made for the exit. I did not follow. 269 "Winning is tough,", I thought to myself, "but it's not as tough as 270 losing." With that thought, I left the Game Arena, and headed for my cubical. 271 I prescribed to the School of Preparation. I had to always prepare for *The 272 Game*. 273 ___________________________A WORD FROM THE WISE - PART XIV____________________ 274 )#@)_*!@)_*!@_)*$!@)_$+!)_@($!@+&$!)_@$!@_*(!+(%!)_#&%_#@*%_@#*%)_#@*%_@#*5 275 Mikey: I have a disk with the three programs we spoke of at the last PCS 276 meeting for you. Tell Aaron I will also have his 4 8" disks with backwater 277 archives there too. The conversion to IBM format is nearly completed. 278 Voyeur : When can you arrange time in your busy schedule to come and help 279 xfer the BW files from IBM to TRS80? 280 *_%#*@_)%*#@_)%*@#)_% L'homme sans Parity *%_)@#*%_)@#*%_)@*%!_)#*%_)!*%_!*%! 281 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 282 It's nice to be back at BW after a long leave of absence. My 283 girlfriend is out of town and I feel like a freeman. (and a Freman) 284 L'Homme: I'll try to get some floppies to you by the next PorSFiS. 285 Mikey and JCS: A vote for "None of the above" says little about who you want 286 for president. Do you want no president. You are not limited to vote 287 for either Ron/George or Fritz/Tits. If you don't like them, write 288 in who YOU think would do the best job. None of the above says little 289 more then not voting. 290 The Ninja 291 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 292 ########################################################################### 293 LEONARD: PLEASE READ "DEBUNKING THE GENOCIDE MYTH" BY PAUL RASSINIER 294 AND 295 " THE HOAX OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY " BY 296 A. R. BUTZ. 1976 297 *=====================><==================================* 298 ------------------------------------------------------------- 299 TO ALL THE ABOVE: 300 to most of you,you took half the disk space talking about 301 Stupid Ronald Reagan And Wally Mondale and that took half the disk space,what i 302 am trying to say is you need to let other 303 people use like now,well so what who cares anyways........... 304 ---------------------International Trader-------------------- 305 Ps-Do you think that the Rajneeshes's should stay in Oregon? 306 i think that they should be kicked out ,now they are trying to 307 take the homeless people into the Rajneesh Porum or whatever 308 anyways i would like to get a nice conversation on here. 309 how about ,about bbs system do you think they are important do you learn anythin 310 g from them ,how about all the new bbs's that come up and then- 311 disapear with out anyone hardly knowing (Why can't anyone set up a bbs like this 312 one or like Rome Dune West Side ect.,well anyway good bye 313 see ya later everyone ............................. 314 REAGAN/BUSH RULE 315 ----------------------Internationl Trader--------------------- 316 317 --------------------------------------------------------------- 318 319 For all of the election debaters, are you aware that Bozo the Clown is also run- 320 ning? His motto is "If we have to have a clown for president, why not have a 321 professional?" 322 323 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 324 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 325 I had changed in some sort of way. When I awoke I saw Bard and a black Unicorn approaching. He said not a word but 326 helped me on Lucifer (his Unicorn), and we rode towards camp. 327 "Odd, still have my mental powers. Lucifer's name came like a shot.", I mumbled. Bard only half-paid attention, busy 328 finding the easiest path in the lovely forest. "Bard, what has happened to the others?", I queried. 329 "Most of them have waited for you. Piper has returned, bringing with him a tremendous appetite. The good Friar has 330 taken a walk with an old woman." 331 I was glad he didn't ask what had happened to me. It seemed like he didn't want to know unless I told him. 332 A pain shot through my head, and a vision sprang before my eyes: The Mad Actor was in the Valley! The pain in 333 my head seemed to be due to some sort of popping noise in TMA's cloak. Throwing a thought that way, it quieted down. 334 I noticed the scenes around me again. We had found the camp, and everyone was standing near the breakfast fire 335 commenting on Piper's capacity to eat. I thanked Bard and Lucifer, and dismounted. My necklace sparked attention. 336 Piper even stopped eating. "Behold all, the first step towards my destiny." The necklace sparkled and glittered in 337 response. 338 "I'm terribly hungry. Piper, could you spare me a bit of that?" 339 ++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 09:52 on 10/26/84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 340 ************************************************************************** 341 Leonard: I don't know if the LF N strips all line feeds let's see ok? 342 well, it would appear that they are stripped out hmm, even in enter mode. 343 Gee, I never really gave it much tought. Nice to know how it works. 344 Well, later, I am going back to my Compuserve manual and try to figure 345 out how to log onto the beast. Golly, when I left this morning there was 346 a bunch of yelling and screaming (debate?) going on at the Inn. Tonight 347 when I step in the door all is quiet. (my ears are still ringing) 348 Here's a thought that someone at work brought up, what if the latest 349 move by the Rashee's is to just make everyone think they aren't going 350 to vote thus making everyone back off, and possibly not vote. Then come 351 election day the neshee's show up in force possibly out voting the complasent 352 peolpe who are caght unaware. Something to think about. 353 **************************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************** 354 355 Ninja - nice to see you back on this system. No time for a message. 356 ... 357 358 359 1 HELLO TO ALL FROM THE 360 *j** 361 C O M P U T E R K I D!! 362 |^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^ 363 The above is a demonstration of real computer professionalism. 364 |^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^|^ 365 **** *************** * ******* 366 * !! FOR SALE !! * 367 * 48K ATARI 800, BASIC, WICO * 368 * 2300 $ + CASSETTE SOFTWARE * 369 * 5 LANGUAGES, UTILITIES * 370 * MOST OF THE BEST GAMES * 371 * MAKE A OFFER, ALL OR ? * 372 * LEAVE MESSAGE 761-xxxx * 373 374 ****************************** 375 376 Mikey: I see, so much for trying to download with lf n! Sigh... 377 I also see that the system will echo more backspaces than it executes. (I have 378 heard of this problem from others too...) One more thing to check out if we 379 ever get the source code. 380 MIG: Have you talked to Mikey about getting the ROMs yet? 381 __________________________________Leonard_______________________________________ 382 Mikey::: If Santa were to bring you a small dictionary for Christmas, would 383 you CLEAN UP YOUR SPELLING????? Santa's Helper 384 _________________________________Not Leonard________________________________ 385 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 386 Lines 372-392?--What happened? It seems that every time I log on, 387 there are lines missing! 388 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lurker <<<<<<<< 389 About the Holocaust.... Yes, what is proof? The ones who say it did not happen all seem to have an axe to grind. 390 A survivor of the camps, who lost his family there, took up on of these yoyi on the "proof" challenge. Had to 391 take the Yoyi to court, had to show the judge all the available evidence, had to jump through a hoop, etc. The 392 Yoyi still wouldn't accept the proof, but the judge did. Made the holocaust a mater of public record. never 393 did hear if they made the yoyi cough up the $$$$$... 394 the Phantom Glitch 10/27 395 8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8- 396 ==========================<*>=========================================================================================== 397 HELLO 398 hi all,this is the International Trader here............folks 399 400 One-who is the lead singer for the group Dokken? 401 Two-Who is the president of the Usa? 402 Three-Do you think this is a dumb poll? 403 --------------------International Trader-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 404 I ONLY KNOW IN MY WORLD 405 I HATE THE LIGHT, 406 I SPEED AT NIGHT...................... 407 no ,voices just whispers in the wind,nofaces just places to begin.......... 408 <(:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::)> 409 A bit of clearing up about polls.... 410 Polls don't make an election, or at least they shouldn't. Polls are legenda- 411 rily inaccurate. Many people aren7't voting for Mondale because "aw, he won't 412 win anyway." Well, it just so happens that polls often ignore segments of the 413 population that could be very important in the polls, mainly lower classes. 414 Most polls are telephone polls, so what about people without phones? Are they 415 not going to vote? Also, I'll bet that most pollsters aren't going to the 416 Bronx for a door-to-door. Now, I'm not saying that Fritz is >>going<< to win, 417 and I'm not saying that you should vote for him. But if you prefer him over 418 the Mad Actor (sorry, Mad Actor, but there is a paralllel), you should vote. 419 It >>will<< make a difference. 420 ------------ 421 All this talk about "Mr. None-of-the-Above" has reminded me of the student 422 body elections at our high school last year. A friend of mine and I ran his 423 cat, Mouschi, for election. This was intended for an outlet for those who 424 didn't care, or didn't care for the candidates. Well, Mouschi got 8% of the 425 the vote, prehaps not too impressive, but beat out one candidate. This is fine 426 for High School Elections, but I don't recommend it for something as impor- 427 tant as the presidential election. 428 ------------ 429 If you intent on voting for None of the Above, why not vote for Ian Rem Bem 430 Lem Plem Ptang Ptang Ole' Biscuit Barrel instead. He's the Silly Party Candi- 431 date. 432 <(::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::Walrus:)> 433 <+|+> {465} 10271729 434 These days there seems to be a lot of negative sentiment aboput the 435 followers of the Bhagwan. It is understandable, but I tend to feel that 436 their only crime has been their abrasiveness. Catalyzed by the paranoiac 437 Sheel Silverman, they acquired a sort of shoot first, ask questions 438 later syndrome, and they have alienated most Oregonians by seeming 439 not to care about anyone else. Maybe it's mostly just Sheela's mouth? 440 I still find the commune to be fascinating--I am a Rajneesh junkie, 441 and hope the much-feared violence in Wasco Co. doesn't appear. 442 I also hope the Rajneesh are able ot find a home and build a city free of 443 objections and persecution. Wherever they go in the world, they will 444 have a hard time planting a new city in a rural area. I think the 445 whole damn world is zoned. And it is easy to see how the rajneeshees 446 might begin to feel frustrated and persecuted in the face of so many 447 seemingly needless barriers to their dream. They may have been thoughtless in 448 disregarding the law and talking out of both sides of their mouth(s). But 449 they may have had reason to be distrustful themselves. 450 At any rate, it is difficult to see the other side when you have 451 "the only religion". Witness the fundamentalist Christians, and the 452 beloved of Islam. It takes all kinds, though. I kind of hope they stay. 453 They paint a swath of color across the ethnically dull canvas of 454 Oregon's demography. 455 Jim Carr 456 (Do I need a nickname?) (Long live Sam Bowie!) (Nice to meetcha!) 457 ========================================================================================== 458 =================================================================================== 459 === 460 ___________________________________________________________________________________ 461 Don't you meen long live rock 'n' roll...? 462 Well all's well that end's well and one thing about that poll 463 i was so stupid to even do that poll i don't know why i am talking about that well does anyone here know the lead singer 464 for DOKKEN??????????HUH???well snap it out? 465 c'mon i hate being patient.......................well 466 467 ================INTERNATIONAL TRADER=========<=============== 468 ================INTERNATIONAL================================ 469 Did you know that 4/5 dentist prefer that dokken is an awesome group INTO THE FIRE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 470 Ha fooled you there let's get a good story going here..... 471 ========================================================== 472 Like how about(this may sound dumb and stupid but) how about like one person starts one story each time they add on to i 473 t ,i know i know that sounds like a little kiddies game 474 it's better than talking about POLITICS:I HATE MONDAL/FERRARO 475 /BUSH 476 ===== 477 One night,in a dark dark city,there lived a dwarf named 478 Heleo,he loved to fish in the old pond,near the town of Trasec 479 he walked along the path each day just to go fishing until one 480 day he noticed something weird was happing so he rushed out 481 of the pond and never went fishing again. 482 HA HA HA HA HA WHAT A FACE,TOP THAT 483 ok guys well i gotta call someone at 2**-**00 484 ha ha ha ha what a D***!!!!!!!!!!! 485 ------:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- 486 the beast:INTERNATIONAL TRADER RULES ALL> 487 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= 488 CITSOP MIKEY:THANX FOR AN AWESOME BBS 489 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 490 From Prometheus: Thre Recentor 491 I wish I had more room to talk, but I feel indignant about International Trader. That said, I'm off... 492 493 Man in Gray; Applemodem was stolen a week ago, no idea who or why! We do have one clue, they left behind the Interface card. 494 Where does this place MLCbbs? 495 Fictional people; Now that we are here, what do we do now? Perhaps after three days, some sort of plumbing facilities... 496 497 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 498 <<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>>==<<==>> 499 I just have one more thing to say. 500 how's life in the fast lane? 501 *************ONE LAST LETTER FROM:INTERNATIONAL TRADER******** 502 i hate spelling my name....................see ya 503 The world is awesome......accept Rajneeshe's and the Russians'S 504 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 505 I think that who ever wrote this right here is a total A-H*LE 506 This Organization Doesn't except terrorist demands! 507 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 508 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 509 Piper obligingly gave me a portion of his food, and I ate it with relish as he studied the necklace. Bard mumbled, 510 "Incredible power generated by such little mass..." Piper thought a bit, and said, "Not generated, my friend. I think 511 this little trinket provides a conduit for energy to pass through. Where it 512 comes I know not." 513 Further hypotheses were put forth, but only this one survived the debate. I personally hadn't thought of the gateway 514 angle. "What do you suppose 'Two thus joined, half thus made' means?", I said to no one in particular, finishing the 515 last of the food. 516 "I think that little item you're wearing is incomplete. Tell us how you got it.", Bard said. 517 I went and as clearly as possible I told them what had happened. 518 "You say they flew together? Then there must be two more pieces. Four altogether. You have two, so 'half thus made'. 519 The question now is where to find the other two pieces..." 520 I suddenly noticed a puddle of water creeping closer to our camp. CREEPING?!? I looked again, and yes, that puddle 521 WAS creeping along. It stopped about five yards away, and spoke. #I am Gyre. I hold the key to the third portion of 522 your dilemma." How convienient, I thought. 523 Piper also had his doubts. "All right, so tell us what the solution is." 524 "First you must tell me what I am to shoow you.", the puddle said. 525 "What? We're supposed to KNOW what you're to show us in order for you to be able to show us?" 526 "To be brief, yes.", the puddle answered. 527 Cripes, I thought, talking to a puddle. Oh well. "We must think. We have discovered two powers, one red and one 528 green. The other two must also have colors. Now, the green power is destruction, obviously." Everyone thought back 529 to the Gazebo. "Now, all that is left is to find out what the Red and the unknown powers are." 530 The puddle seemed to smile, as hard as that is for a puddle. "Quite good reasoning, but I won't say if it is correct or 531 not. Tell me what I am to show you." 532 ++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 01:18am on 10/28/84 D.S.T. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 533 534 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | | | Club Tropicana Presents... | 535 536 ????????????????????????????????????????????? 537 what was that just above? 538 539 or does anybody care? 540 541 mike, who cared about the votes for Mickey Mouse? I beleive it was the 542 press, who could use it for a laugh in what was otherwise a very dull 543 election report. Not thwe poiticians. But do salve your ego, it may be 544 the best thing to do with a vote if the polls mean anything. Times have 545 been relatively good, and any politian now in is claiming responsibility. 546 I only wish they were right, but , tho I know they can damage the 547 economy, I have serious doubts about thier ability to help it, especially 548 in view of what is truly known about what drives the economy. 549 550 A few line above the sentiment was expressed that anyone has the right to 551 speak out in favor of any view, no matter how 'wrong'; this is a very 552 dangerous use of freedom of speech. Do you believe in the right to 553 yell "fire!" in a full theater? to teach that you can fly if you believe 554 it strongly enough, and the building is tall enough? 555 If a claim is made, and someone believes it, but it isn't true, how much is 556 that person hurt? How much is the truth damaged? This is 1984, and newspeak 557 was an important weapon in the book. Trying to hide the truth about WWII 558 isn't going to help anybody who doesn't plan to sell a book claiming 559 hokum. But then we who use BWMS think for ourselves, so here is a good 560 safe place to say hokum. 561 ................................BAD.............................. 562 ...............................HORRIBLE.......................... 563 ...............................TERRIBLE.......................... 564 ...............................OBNOXIOUS......................... 565 ...........................ALL ROUND MEAN........................ 566 -------------------------------------------------- 567 what an ed nule head >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 568 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 569 I have a large stack of cards, pink in colour, that contain all kinds of info on folks who frequented BW in the past. I 570 look to them now, and find no traders, international or otherwise, around. The hunt is afoot. I gather the required 571 materials, dust off the old twit-whistle. A soft blow, "pirate software!" the whistle whistles. It will be easy. 572 Theus:Chard and I have discussed the matter. The fact that the interface card, with its custom chips and about .6 of the 573 modem hardware, was left behind, makes me wonder as to the motive. Perhaps a stupid user of another computer type? or 574 somebody who is pissed at MLC? I have another modem, but a few mods need to be made to use it on an apple2. Also the 575 software must change. I think I need to talk with the normal inhabitaints of the little room. Call me sometime when your 576 voice phone works again. 577 ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ~ ? ? ? ?/MiG/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 578 YOURE "WELCOME TO BWMS..ETC TURNS ON MY INVERSE BUT 579 DOESNT TURN IT OFF 580 *%#@_)*%_)#*%_)#!%*!#*%_@#)*%_@#%_@#$&%_&^_)&*_^)!*&^_+&*_$&^_&^_@)$&^_@)^& 581 Cough Cough...Mikey...Did you get my last message re: Sanyo stuff and BW 582 archive disks? 583 Leonard: What did you want Saturday? 584 Ninja : You'll need 25 disks for all the BW stuff. Where ya been? 585 )*%&_@#)*%@#_)*%_#)@%*@#)_*%$% L'homme sans Parity *%_*%_@)*%@)_#*%_@)#*%_@#)* 586 L'homme: Yes, I did indeed get the msg, sorry I didn't reply sooner, 587 What with everything else going on, I plumb forget! I just got thru 588 spending the weekend building a H150. I shall be waiting for said same disk(s). 589 one final note to the debaters, and then i shall move on to other 590 subjects, and not speak of it again. most people who vote for 591 someone (thing?) that does not exist on the ballot 592 recognize that the person/thing will not win. the purpose of 593 voting the way they do is to make a statement. be it a vote 594 for a libitarian, or mickey mouse. (sorry about the lack of 595 caps, this stupid computer just decided to not let them thru 596 anymore, and i forgot the command to get things back to normal.) 597 as a result, it doesn't really matter for the point of end results 598 who you vote for if you don't vote the ticket. since i feel both 599 canidates are unsuitible for the office, i find that i am unable 600 to vote for either one.. after all, that is the purpose of the vote 601 to chose the person you wish to have in the office. since i feel 602 neither one is acceptable, i must vote for another way. since i 603 know also that it won't prevent one of the two from winning, i 604 have decided to vote the way i want to which is for mr. none-of- 605 the-above. this satisfies me, and still places my mark outthere 606 as a voter which provides a count of those who voted for other 607 then the two canidates. (this BAD is what i was talking about when 608 i indicated the concern that occured during the last election. they 609 don't care about mickey mouse being voted for, it is the fact the 610 a rather significant increase in people voting for other then the 611 two given canidates that caused concern, as this leads to the obvious 612 realization that maybe the parties are not meeting the needs and 613 wants of the citizens as well as they should if they are loosing 614 voters. this is also the reason why they keep track of those who 615 don't vote at all. though that is a bit more touch to figure out, 616 since it could be a. the peole are happy, so why bother with it, 617 or b. they are feed up with the whol mess, and feel that voting 618 won't make any difference.) why should they be concerned about 619 loosing voters? simple, most elections are won by narrow margins, 620 and a loose voter can possibly be swug back, or lost to another party. 621 or worse, (shudder) cause an independant canidate to be voted to office. 622 i realize that some of you out there are satisfied with one of the 623 canidates, and that's fine too. but don't tell me i have to vote ofr 624 one of them. i do not find a situation of lesser of two evils here, 625 only equal (different aspects yes, but still bad) evils. as someone 626 said before (i forget who, but thank you.) i consider it to be the 627 difference of pointing a gun at my head, or being asked to take poison. 628 i prefer to say no thank you. 629 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ******************************** TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 629