1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 *********************** INSTALLED: 21 NOV 84 **************************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************************* 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 -=*=- In all my years of visiting the Inn, this is the first time! -=*=- 21 -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- Old Timer -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- 22 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? / 23 Mad Max:kindly tell me how Dent can be awoke from sipping tea and reading? 24 Prometheus:Great! Are we going for the psuedo-nazis in Idaho? Our friend 25 from SALOG wasn't too clear on that (when is he ever clear on anything?) 26 I don't want a repete of the Wintermute incedent. I wish we didn't have to 27 get the cash from Kendall, somebody will eventualy notice that all that R&D 28 money going in to the observatory isn't finding its way into equipment. 29 I got a shipment of guns today, we got 4 mini-14's, some god-damned l 30 deadly looking Remington 870's with vindicator stocks, modified for 3 shot 31 burst and full auto. I still havn't unpacked the other 2 cases, but we s 32 should be getting some full auto ar's and a box of 7.62MM Uzi's. where are 33 we going to get the #$%&'() AMMO for all this crap? You call SALOG, I can't 34 understand that damn accent of his. 35 If any info was relayed to me on the last disk, I missed it, the 4023 36 flaked out on me. Take care. 37 Meso-Math:Have you ever used the key? 38 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? / 39 *********************************************************************** 40 AHHH, MY MODEM DEEMS TO BE BETTER TODAY.. 41 LHOMME: HOW DO I GET UP TO THE SOFTWARE MAGE? ALSO I HAVE FIGURED OUT 42 HOW TO GET OUTOF THE MAZES WITH FRESH BATTERIES. BUT ALTHOUGH I HEAR 43 THE PIRATEEE LURKING AROUND BEHIND ME I CAN'T FIND HIS TREASURE 44 CHEST. ADVICE? 45 ************************************************************************ 46 Leo was relaxing at the Inn, actually she seemed interested in 47 young prometheus who was lurking around in the corner. He seemed like 48 he might make a good pente partner. But, Leo thought of Alex's advice 49 to cool it on making friends untill here carear was firmer. The Innkeeper 50 was being quite attentive, keeping her in herbal tea. Suddenly the door 51 of the Inn blew open and in tramped 4 bedraggled travelers mumbling 52 something about tired feet and exhausted craniums. "It seems like we 53 are always solving puzzles just a second to late!" They paid no atten- 54 tion to Leo and pulled up chairs at what seemed "their" table. The Inn 55 keeper drew up stong dark drafts to satifiy the newly arrived customers. 56 Leo seemed content with her tea and thought of the later hour. She 57 and Ontho had to make an early start tommorow and were instructed not 58 to return untill the evil force in Iceland was under control. The next 59 plan would be to follow undetected a craft seen near a explosion. And 60 see where it leads them. Ontho and the Elders had put toghther a 61 invisablilty sheild for their disk, first of its kind seen, err not seen. 62 Leo finished her tea, paid the Innkeeper and tiped him generously, 63 "you have been most kind, pray for me and my companion on this journey 64 we begin tomorrow". the Innkeeper was surprized at Leo's words and did 65 not respond. Leo just smiled and left closing the door on the laughter 66 of the tired travelers 67 *********************************kathy************************************ 68 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 69 Just a word to the new writers (yes, you too, ex-deleter)-- 70 Please don't take a seeming indifference as a snub. I for one, begin entries 71 with the full intention of replying to one or more of you if possible. It's 72 just not always possible. If I'm working on a story line of my own, or in the 73 midst of trying to find just the right words to reply to someone else without 74 unwittingly hurting their feelings (if I hurt someone, I prefer that it be 75 intentional) or dreging some obscure reference from this tired old brain, I 76 forget to include the answer. Oh, yes! I begin to feel guilty for the amout 77 of disk space and connect time that I am taking, also! 78 Apologies aside, please keep writing! Nearly every serious attempt made 79 lately has a lot going for it. Remember though, let your characters feel what 80 goes on around them. If someone sees a beautiful sight, what does it do to 81 them inside? Does it make them suddenly feel soft and warm, like a lick from 82 a puppy's tounge, exhilarated like reaching the bottom of a downhill ski run, 83 what? It's possible to simply put down the facts of a story, but the real 84 pleasure in reading it is to know the characters. We know them through two 85 main channels, how they react to each other and what the author tells us 86 about their feelings. Continue -- persevere -- you are welcome here! 87 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 88 { ^+/* ---------------- ^+/* ---------------- */+^ ---------------- */+^ } 89 (Mez continues with the story...) 90 91 The children received much advice as to how the seventeen parcels of 92 land should be divided. Some said that they should sell the land and divide 93 the proceeds according to the formula given in the WILL. Others thought they 94 should just ignore the WILL and divide the property evenly. 95 None of the suggested options would satisfy all the children. Finally 96 they decided that the WILL had been some kind of riddle, left by the monarch, 97 to guide them. Perhaps to find a new teacher, someone to guide them wisely, 98 as the monarch had. They decided to set out to find this person who could 99 solve the riddle of the WILL. 100 They traveled far and wide in search of the answer to the riddle. Time 101 and space are too small to recount the many adventures and mishaps that 102 befell them along the way. Many times one or the other would be discouraged 103 to the point of quitting. On these occasions they would gain encouragement 104 from each other. This gave them the strength to continue the search. 105 One afternoon as they were resting and refreshing themselves, along 106 came a stranger walking slowly down the dusty road. Being kindly folk they 107 offered to share food, drink, and shade. Soon the talk drifted around to the 108 riddle of the WILL. The children recited the conditions for the division of 109 the seventeen parcels of land. After so many repetitions it had almost become 110 a ritual chant. 111 When the children had finished the stranger smiled and said, 112 "The answer to the riddle is simple but it requires one more element. I have 113 some land of my own from which I will add one more parcel, equal in size to 114 the seventeen you already have. One third of that is exactly six parcels, 115 which go to the oldest. That leaves twelve more parcels to distribute. A one 116 third share of this would be four parcels, and a one twelfth share would be 117 one parcel. We give four each to two of you and one each to the other three. 118 After these eleven parcels are removed we have one left, my original parcel, 119 which can be returned to me." 120 { ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^ } 121 122 MiG: He was dreaming it... 123 -----------------------------------MM 124 ****************************************************************************** 125 piper: did I miss something what is with the (exdeleter?) just when I 126 was having fun with my insults!!?? 127 zork folks: what do i do with the coffin? 128 ***************************kathy********************************************** 129 As a newcomer, can you tell me what the primary purpose of this bulletin board 130 is. I find the stories interesting. Are all of you writers? Can anybody join 131 in? 132 Woody 133 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 134 Kathy, 135 You misted nothing i have just decided to quit my old practices. You can 136 continue to enter your put downs if you like, I find them quite ammusing. 137 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BILL C.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE EX RANDOM DELETER!!!!!!!!!!! 138 !!!!! I DECIDED TO CHANGE THE ABOVE IS MY TRUE NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 139 < BilYou're either real gutsy or real dumb. I haven't figured which. > 140 141 Come on guys, I know he's been a REAL 142 pain, but lets give him a chance. If 143 he starts deleting again, then we can 144 start taking action... 145 -----------------------------------MM 146 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 147 INSPIRATION FOR THE UNHAPPY 148 Once upon a time there was a little sparrow who hated to fly south for 149 the winter. He dreaded the thought of leaving his home so much that he decided 150 he would delay the journey until the last minute. After bidding a formal 151 farewell to his friends, he went back to the nest and stayed there for an 152 additional four weeks. Finally, the weather turned so bitterly cold that he 153 could delay no longer. As the little bird took off and started to fly south, 154 it began to rain. In a short time, ice began to form on his little wings. 155 Almost dead from cold and exhaustion, he fell to earth in a barnyard. 156 As he was breathing his last breath, a horse walked out of the barn and 157 proceeded to cover the little bird with fertilizer. At first the little sparrow 158 could think of nothing, except that this was a terrible way to die. 159 But as the fertilizer started to sink into his feathers, it warmed him and 160 life began to return to his little body. He also found that he had 161 enough room to breath. Suddenly the little sparrow was so happy that he 162 started to sing. At that moment a large cat came into the barnyard. 163 Hearing the chirping of the bird, he began digging into the fertilizer 164 to find out where the sound was coming from. The cat finally uncovered 165 the bird and ate him. 166 167 This story contains three morals: 168 1. Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy. 169 2. Not everyone who takes shit off you is your friend. 170 3. When you are warm and comfortable, even if it is in a pile of shit, 171 keep your mouth shut. 172 [I've seen this somewhere before; if it was here I apologize for 173 the redundancy.] 174 ????????????????????????????? QUIZMASTER ????????????????????????????????? 175 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 176 .. Ubtain lasguns. The forman stopped in his tracks seeing the guns a warm 177 felling came into him the feeling that it was his end.Getho raised his las 178 gun and fired directly at the forman, the shot pirced his head in a clean 179 cut. There was no blood or brain shed since the lasguns enable the user to 180 a silent clean shot which breaks all nervous system bonds on the victum. As 181 the forman fall to the floor the gathering turned to see what had happened, 182 as one of the droids in the front turned his eyes caught those of Ramcos. 183 Ramco stared deeply into his eyes and saw sudden fear erupt in the droid. As 184 he continued to stare he noticed something odd about the eyes something that 185 bothered him extremly, the eyes of his counter part had no thought behind 186 them. He tought," when i look into the formans or any other outer gaurds 187 eyes i see something there, its not just blank like this workers seem to be." 188 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BILL CU. 189 {c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c} 190 It was late on a bitterly cold winter night. I think I had been 191 walking for too long, the cold night air was starting to pierce through 192 my small coat. Just a few more miles and I'll be there, I couldn't believe 193 this was happening to me. I haven't bee able to come home for years. I 194 gripped my coat around my throat and walked on. I could barely see the side 195 of the raod it was so foggy. I was fealling so wonderfull in side I almost 196 didn't hear the truck comming up behind me. I spun around as it rushed by, 197 the big tires spraying the wet slush that was on the ground all over me. 198 This was just great, but I was in too good a mood to be messed up about a 199 little water. I turned and started to walk again. I started to sing a little 200 song that I once sung when I used to live at home. A small song that reminded 201 me about the lovely trees and the playfull waterfall. Oh, I wished I could 202 hurry and get there so I could lay in the front lawn watching the fluffy 203 clouds float by. Only a few more miles and I'll be there, can't stop now. 204 {c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{Tammy}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c}{c} 205 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 206 CISTOP MIKEY:I think your way of 207 handling *ahem* vandals is superb.it 208 is definitely one of the better ways ive 209 seen. 210 211 BILL C.:I'm glad you changed.but im 212 curious as to what made it happen... 213 214 I, too, find it in very poor taste 215 to point out peoples mistakes when they 216 are just having fun.REALLY! 217 218 Anyway, im glad to see a lot of 219 Douglas Adams take-offs being written. 220 i think that they are thoroughly 221 enjoyable. 222 OH YEAH,I'D LIKE MY ERRORS POINTED 223 OUT TO ME SO I MIGHT NOT MAKE THEM AGAIN INSTEAD OF BEING TOLD LATER SO I 224 CANNOT REMEMBER THEM. 225 AND PLEASE DONT POINT OUT MY ERRORS IN THIS,I KNOW I MADE THEM. 226 227 Arrio 228 229 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 230 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 231 ARRIO, 232 The reason i changed is because i figured the world did not need yet 233 another destructive person since we nave enough already, the seiks in india, 234 reagan,the sandanistas in nigaragua,the nazi war crimunals that are still 235 alive, and such. So from the comments of people on this board and my own 236 power of reasoning I have decided to change and input something creative 237 instead of rampage,pillage,and plunder and all around destroy. 238 239 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill C.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 240 241 P.S. 242 CISTOP MIKE, 243 Why did you erease the statement below my entry and the other entry below 244 that, I would like to go ahead and take the chance of what ever any one mi 245 ght want to do to me since i feel that i deserve what ever they dish out to 246 me. 247 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 248 SPELL CHECK SPELL CHECK SPELL CHECK SPELL CHECK 249 WELL, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT SPELL ALERT IS HAVING 250 PROBLEMS IN DETECTING SPELLING ERRORS. OR RATHER 251 DETECTING NONEXISTANT ERRORS. SPECIFICALLY, 252 INDICATING THAT D HAD FOUR ERRORS, AND ONE TYPO. 253 IN CHECKING IT OVER, I DID NOT FIND ANY. THERE 254 WERE SOME WORDS THAT WERE SPELLED IN OLD ENGLISH, 255 BUT THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN ERROR, PARTICULARLY 256 WHEN THE WHOLE ENTRY IS WRITTEN WITH THAT FLAVOR. 257 I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST SPELL ALERT THAT 258 YOU UPDATE YOUR DICTIONARY, OR AT LEAST USE A 259 BIT MORE CARE IN WHAT YOU DETERMINE TO BE A 260 SPELLING ERROR. 261 SPELL CHECK SPELL CHECK SPELL CHECK SPELL CHECK 262 263 ************************************************************* 264 Archivers: I will be making changes in the way I archive things 265 This is caused by several things, one the increasing expense 266 of 8 inch disks. Since I maintain double archives (having learned 267 in the past that when dealing with that much information you 268 will always have some disk error problems.) this means I have 269 two 8 inch disks for every archive disk. Two it is a pain in 270 the neck to setup the thing to do the archives. Fire up the 271 8 inch system, load COPYLINK, turn on the filter, take BWMS 272 off line boost the baud rate to 1200, turn on the line numbers, 273 then realize I don't have any formated 8 inch disks, go back to 274 the system load format routine, format system disk (Arghhh!), 275 dig up backup system disk, copy files back on to system disk, 276 load format routine. put blank disk in drive run format, take 277 disk out and throw on trash can because it wouldn't format, 278 put another blank disk in and format it, reload COPYLINK, 279 turn filter on again (I got to run the custom command one 280 of these days, but there never seems to be enough room on 281 the disk.) take current disk out of BWMS put old disk to 282 be archived in, open file on 8 inch system to save the data, 283 type LIST, twidle thumbs while transfer is taking place, close 284 file on 8 inch system, turn off BWMS, put next archive disk 285 in BWMS, open next file on 8 inch system, type LIST again, 286 twidle thumbs again, close file on 8 inch system, turn off 287 BWMS, put next disk to be archived in, ect..., run out of 288 space on 8 inch disk, go back to system, run format routine 289 again format system disk again (SOB) recopy files from backup 290 again, format new disk, reload COPYLINK again, open file, ect... 291 finally done, go back to system, format another disk (why didn't 292 I format them all ahead of time?) (This time I didn't format 293 the system disk wow!) copy new BWMS archive disk to archive 294 backup disk, get disk error in file, reload COPYLINK, retransfer 295 bad file, go back to system copy bum file, format another disk, 296 create new archive disk off of good backup disk, throw bad disk 297 in trash, carfully put disks away in box, put current disk 298 back in BWMS, put it back on line, go to bed and sleep it off. 299 ************************************************************: 300 I will now be copying the disks directly on my 5 inch cpm system, 301 This way I don't have to take BWMS off line for 4 to 5 hours to 302 do the archiving, and, it is a whole bunch faster. The problem is 303 that the format is still weird, the CPM system uses the same 304 format as BWMS does, (18 sectors per track) but is a bit bigger 305 (40 tracks instead of 35) it also uses the back side for a total 306 of 80 tracks, track 0 on the back side is track 41. I can however 307 still upload to 8 inch, so no problem there. The 5 inch cpm system 308 only holds 171K instead of 250K though, so not as much archival 309 storrage. I have thought about saving as double density, but 310 my CPM machine is the only one in the world that uses my DD format 311 (26 sectors per track (128 byte sectors)) and again, track 0 on 312 the back side is recalculated as track 40. (I thought about rewritting 313 it to be in MSDOS format, but I haven't had the time (use what works)). 314 Anyway, what all this means, is no more line numbers, I can regenerate 315 them if you prefer, (just more code in the copy routine). I will 316 also no longer be filtering control characters (with the exception 317 of control Z which is used by CPM and MSDOS as a end of file mark, 318 so can't have it floating around in there!) Again, I can filter out 319 the control chars if you want, only a little bit more code to deal 320 with. And finally, the startup information (file open number of lines 321 margin, ect..) will not be there, again, I can poke it in if you 322 want. What I need to know, is do you want line numbers or not, 323 do you want filtering or not, do you want header or not. And for 324 that matter, do you want archives anymore or not? 325 (It's eight o'clock, so tell me, what am I still doing at work? 326 I think I'll go home.... 327 *********************** CISTOP MIKEY **************************** 328 ::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::11/21::::::::::21:23:::::::O O:::::::::::::: 329 Mikey: actually, the new archive format is what most of us are editing our 330 archives to look like. (i.e. removing the header [after 200 of them, it 331 gets redundant], removing line numbers, etc.) As far as the disk format 332 itself, I shall leave it to L'homme to comment on, since he seems to be the 333 one in charge of conversions. 334 :::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::: 335 336 We often think that when we have completed our study of ONE we know 337 all about TWO, because 'two' is 'one and one'. We forget that we still 338 have to make a study of AND. 339 -A. S. Eddington 340 341 It's here, it's here!!! The fourth 342 book in the Hitchhikers Guide to the 343 Galaxy series is here!!! Hee Hee!!! 344 My story line is on hold so I can 345 encorperate the stuff from the new 346 book. If you want to read it too, 347 go to your local book seller and be 348 ready to shell out $12.95. Got to 349 finsh the chapter... 350 ------------------------------------ 351 Mad Max was here. NEW answer... 352 ------------------------------------ 353 WHY DON'T YOU try using original ideas rather than copying them out of a book? 354 THAT'S WHY SOME people call is so that they can view original writing. 355 The story was only a continuation. Every action that took place in it was 356 mine. Since the fourth book is finaly here, I won't bother making up anymore 357 continuations. Why do you capitalize the first three words? Also, why didn't 358 you sign your name? I always like knowing who's views are being expressed... 359 --------------Mad Max----------------------------------23:31-------------- 360 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 361 OK, MiG, here's a comparison of Repo Man and Buckaroo Banzai. 362 In Repo Man, daily life is sleazy, unjust and senseless. The hero is a 363 creep and a sinner, but he's got style (business suit-punk) and he's always 364 SEEKING-mostly for ways to rip people off and for sex, but occasionally for 365 truth. The only real difference between him and the villains is that THEY 366 dress in L.A. Psycho style. 367 In B.B. daily life is fair and orderly except for the homicidal maniacs who 368 are about to End the World. The hero is brilliant and brave and kind and 369 musical. He wears imaginative clothes that have enormous shoulders or look 370 like they've been run over by trucks. He works tirelessly for justice, 371 372 technical excellence, and rock & roll. The villains are brilliant, too, 373 but they are dedicated to BADNESS. (That's why they call them bad guys.) 374 They want to oppress the whole universe and are not at all funny or musi- 375 cal. They wear disguises so you can't tell what their taste in clothes is 376 but you CAN tell they are sneaky and coldly violent. So the hero SAVES 377 THE WORLD from these fiends. Then he goes backto being heroic. 378 Morality-wise, Repo Man is like Candide as told by John Calvin. B.B. is 379 like Marvel Comics as told by John Wayne. 380 Buckaroo Banzai has better special effects. 381 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Gaudy Minsky TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 382 Mad Max-I like the Arthur Dent series. Are you going to wait until you've 383 finished #4 to continue? Is it a solo act? 384 -------an MM fan ======= 385 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 386 Gaudy M.:Thank you. Would it be possible to obtain the date and newspaper 387 name for that article you showed me on networking authors? 388 Theus:Bad news, Gregory dropped by this afternoon, started flashing his ID. 389 We have to stop him from doing that, everybody and there grandmothers know 390 that he works for the NSA, so why does he flash that dumb FBI badge all 391 the time? I ran back the capture tapes of his "secret" radio transmission 392 with HQ, he kept talking about how prettily the stars were shineing today. 393 I think we should definatly not get any cash from Kendall, the observatory 394 is too hot. 395 I tried getting more info from SALOG, no dice, his bodyguard was stoned 396 again, wouldn't let me talk to him. I think its going to be the Neo-nazi's 397 in Idaho, this looks like far too much firepower for the Rajneeshe run. 398 And if were doing that, we will need the black van. So lets }ake another 399 payment on the van O.K.?? Get that thing out of the shop. 400 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?p? ? ? ? ? ? ?   ? ? ? ? ? ? / 401 ? ? ? ? ? ? > ?/Gee, why don't I start signing things?/MiG/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 402 Mikey: I vote for REMOVING the headers, keeping as many ctrl chars as possible 403 (that msg on what is NOW "drive c" would disappear without ctrl chars!) 404 & keeping line numbers. 405 I want to keep line #s because with all the format conversions we are 406 occasoinally going to trash a line. If it hadn't been for line #s, I would have 407 missed several errors ithat have crept in along the way. 408 (considering the way SOME people write, it's hard to tell if part of a line 409 is missing unless there isn't a line number. ie that disk [mar84 maybe?] that 410 had block get "munched" in the xmodem xfer.) 411 ....must go, it's getting early & I'm starting to babble.. 412 ________________________________Leonard_________________________________________ 413 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 414 415 From Prometheus: Leasoon 416 I am going far away for a few days, and traversing my way to Spokanne, Washington. I plan to be back on Monday morn. 417 Some freind is getting me in, and he claims that the Chairman hes neo-nazi AFFILIATIONS. Only problem being how boring the 418 Society is to non-vintners... 419 I have a plane to catch so I can't say much now, but i will when I get back. If ever... 420 Those vintners you know, wild parties lasting weeks on end, before ANYONE goes home. Sick, smut in every corner, icky poo! 421 422 BILL C; Well aside frpm the incredible reversion of a disK back, OR SO, I can not complain any about you preformance. 423 I do however suggest that some of your "enemies" are a bit more adept at social kills than, perhaps, you know. 424 If you behave consistantly, in the mature manner you have now, i'm sure the social ambiant will come toSPECT YOU IN TIME. 425 As for my opinion of you, I have not formed a solid one, as yet... 426 427 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 428 429 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 430 Mikey: I got tired just reading your message about archiving. Your efforts are appreciated by all. You run a fine 431 establishment. Sorry about the disturbed ninnies who force enter only mode. 432 MiG:Speaking of enter only mode, I left out some lines in the above to the 433 effect that Repo Man ascends to heaven in a Chevy Malibu but not because 434 he deserves it. Through grace. Hence the calvinism. The article is from 435 November 2, 1984 Wall Street Journal. 436 Page 23. 437 Social Note:L'Homme sans Parity was recently observed spreading knowledge 438 and culture across the face of managerial inertia ( a face vastly improved 439 by any change whatsoever, but one notorious for its imperviousness to 440 the galvanizing effects of intellect such as L'Homme's. Dashing in app- 441 earance and (superior in knowledge, his presentation was flawless, presen- 442 ting a feast of revolutionary tools and information and prompting such 443 comments as "Is there any more coffee?" and "Why would you want to commu- 444 nicate with anybody that fast anyway?" We are confident that learning 445 took place at some subliminal level and have filed the incident in our 446 Pearls Before Swine folder. L'homme, undaunted, continues to provide 447 sparkling service and jokes of varying quality. 448 TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Gaudy Minsky TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 449 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 450 Just stopped by for a moment.... HAPPY THANKSGIVING, all! 451 +++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 452 How much did L'homme pay Gaudy Minsky for that dazzling endorsement? 453 And Why? 454 455 We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough 456 to operate without scrutiny or withthout criticism. We know that the 457 only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to 458 detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error 459 undetected will flourish and subvert. 460 --J. Robert Oppenheimer 461 462 (-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-) 463 Happy thanksgiving! Just don't forget to cook the turkey! 464 (-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-)_(-) 465 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 466 And eat it! 467 468 HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! 469 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 470 The apprentice stopped by the Inn but briefly. He had been very busy of 471 late. After finishing his meal (you can all guess what kind of spread the 472 Inn has available on Thanksgiving!), he left a scroll for d, Pam, and his 473 other fiends with the innkeeper. 474 ............................................... 475 (herewith follows the text of the scroll) 476 1 gallon of apple cider 477 1/2 package brown sugar 478 3-4 tbsp whole allspice 479 3-4 tbsp whole cloves 480 6-8 cinnamon sticks (broken) 481 1/2 tsp salt 482 1 jar small spiced crab apples (optional) 483 484 combine ingerients and boil 1 hour. 485 (WARNING: remove the spices after boiling. If they are left in the cider will 486 get EXTREMELY strong. We did NOT remove the spices the first time we used this 487 recipe and after a couple hours of being kept warm on the stove, the cider 488 was so dark it resembled COFFEE! We finally had to mix the remaining cider 489 with unspiced cider (1:1 to 1:2 proportions) to render it drinkable once more!) 490 ................................the apprentice................................ 491 ************************************************************************* 492 Happy thanksgiving to you all from a slightly overstuffed Innkeeper. 493 Just got back from hood river, and boy am I tired. 494 ************************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 495 496 )_*%#_@)*%#_)!@*%!_@*%!)_#%*@_#)*%@#)_*%)_#$*^_)#*)_*%@#)_*#$)_^*#)_&*)_*%@#_)%*@#_)*%+_%*@)_%*_)%*@_#)%*@_)%@%@* 497 aH...Hood River...The city of my origin. So how is the old town anyway? As for the archive disks, unless I have the 498 exact information of these new 5" disks, including skew patterns and such, I can't use them. Double sided stuff is 499 bad enough, if it's not something popular like Xerox or Osbug 1, and your format sounds ultra strange. 500 Milchar : Color? Finally! Outstanding. Now you can see the famous L'homme/Milch line. plot, and fill routines run out 501 of stack space in living color. One note on the adventure. Get your compass fixed. I was careful to mention the citadel 502 was to the east, while you spoke of looking west. What gives? Too much kool-aid? Any word on the koala program? 503 Voyeur : You made an entry. Another Omen must have come in the mail. heh heh. Seriously though, how was your 504 Thanksgiving dinner? I suppose the ENTIRE family was there...sigh...(sorry leonard) 505 Mikey again: What do you know about rectifiers? I was helping a friend finish up his LNW computer kit, but when we 506 tested the power supply, I got some STRANGE readings. The +/- 12 were there ok, as well as -5, but no +5. The windings 507 off the xformer gave the rectifier 9vac, which is right, but coming out of the rectifier was +7.5 vdc, instead of 5. 508 If you see a pattern, let me know. I can tell you more about what I found on various test points on the board later. 509 And last but not least...Kathy...Your adventure helper is here. The treasures you must find are GOLD NUGGET, SILVER 510 BARS, JEWELRY, COINS, DIAMONDS, MING VASE, PEARL, EMERALD, PLATINUM, CHAIN, SPICES, PERSIAN RUG, AND TREASURE CHEST. 511 ok...From west end of 'The Hall of Mists.' W,D,N,E,(ORANGE COLUMN PIT),E,NW. OK, this is where the pirate hides his 512 booty. Let him steal your treasure, then make a bee-line for this location. Your treasure that was stolen, long with 513 the treasure chest will be at this location. Tell me if this works. 514 *_)*$@#_&%@_)^&)_&!_@)+)%_@&^_)@!&!_@)%&^$#_&) L'homme sans Parity _)!@*$!_)!_+)*%_)#*%)_*_)#!*%)_^&%()&*^)^*#$_)^ 515 **************************************************************** 516 L'Homme: Stop that, your giving away all the secrets! Besides, 517 you forgot about the eggs. 518 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ************************** 519 SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL 520 521 Why if it isn't thy sister's keeper. Normally I don't reply to 522 comments, especially if they are as feebly worded as yours, but I will 523 make an exception in this case. 524 525 These are the words my equipment found problems with. 526 527 word / correct spelling 528 ---- ---------------- 529 murmer / murmur 530 humour / humor 531 collegue / colleague 532 savoury / savory 533 medly / medley 534 cauldren / caldron 535 536 And according to Webster's 20th century 2nd edition Unabridged 537 dictionary, there is no such word as 'blousy.' 538 539 If a message is to have English (British) spelling contained in it, 540 the entire message should be written as such. Dropping such words out of 541 context is considered tacky and pompous. Nevertheless, my equipment obviously 542 did not count all of the errors. 543 544 In closing, you take all of this far too seriously. This is merely 545 an attempt to raise consciousnesses, not ires. If you can't take it in the vein 546 it was meant, then you have problems indeed. 547 548 By the way, you misspelled 'nonexistant' / nonexistent. 549 550 SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL ALERT SPELL 551 552 553 SPELL ALERT, I'm afraid that your equipment is faulty on a few of those. Humour and Savour are both acceptable 554 alternative spellings, and Cauldron (spelled "on" and not "en") is also an acceptable variation. Check your Webster's, 555 you'll find them listed. Otherwise....... who cares? I agree that this is a great fuss about nothing. 556 As to "tacky and pompous", when I was first learning to spell (some 40 years ago), "colour", "flavour", and so forth 557 were as common in this country as the versions you find more acceptable. It is extremely "pompous" of Americans to take 558 a word, change it's spelling to suit our needs, and then refer to the original (and some would say correct) spelling as 559 a "chiefly British variation". Those spellings are the original ones, and our spellings are the variations. Or perhaps 560 bastardizations would be a better description. Of course, Americans are an arrogant lot. 561 ........................................................................................................................ 562 SPELL ALERT: Also please note that the "British" spellings are the STANDARD 563 spellings in Canada! Anyone who has lived there a while tends to use them 564 interchangeably after they return to the US. 565 ______________________________________Leonard_________________________________ 566 ps L'homme: I need a new IBM version copy of Subadv. I seem to have made 567 ne to many changes to my original... (IBM so that it'll be easier to 568 convert to M100). 569 ___________________________________________________________________________ 570 571 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++;; 572 SPELL ALERT: You talk about people being pompous and tacky because 573 they use word variations and spelling you don't like. Yet don't 574 you think what your doing is a bit pompous and tacky? As for 575 a word not appearing in your dictionary, that hardly makes it 576 wrong to use it. There are many words that don't appear in the 577 dictionary. It is one of the beautiful things about the English 578 language, you can create words to more closely fit what you are 579 trying to say. I enjoy seeing the creation of a new word. It shows 580 that the person is actually thinking about what they are writing, 581 and not getting all wrapped up in what is proper and what isn't. 582 The way words get in the dictionary is that they are created by 583 people who use them, and when they become commonly accepted, then 584 the dictionary folks decide it's time to accept it as existing. 585 I also disagree that it is not proper to use old english spelling 586 in or out of context. It is only important that the spelling be 587 consistant so that it is readable. And as for d's message, you 588 obviously didn't read it, else you wouldn't have made the comment 589 to begin with. It most certainly was written with an old english 590 flavour. And in fact, the particular spelling and words used enhanced 591 the mood and tone of the writting. That is the important thing, words 592 should be used to create the picture, not to be important of themselves. 593 ++++++++++++++++++ fred +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++;; 594 595 596 ***********************************************************: 597 L'homme: +7.5 vdc coming out of the rectifier sounds about right 598 (maybe it could be a little more. It should be feed to a 5 volt 599 regulator someplace to get the +5 regulated. The normal cause 600 of loss of +5 is a short someplace. 601 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY *********************** 602 603 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 604 605 I come to the Inn, but it appears that nobody is home. On this day 606 after Thanksgiving I would have thought that the Innkeeper would be here for 607 me to speak to, but it appears that he is not. Perhaps I will try again 608 this weekend. I wanted to tell him of the tables I cleaned, of the closet I 609 opened wherein lay the simple tools of the barkeep's trade, and of how I was 610 unable to once again close the door after it was opened. Apparently I was 611 using the wrong key, or perhaps using the key incorrectly. Ah well, such is 612 life for those of us whose experience is only matched by our ignorance in 613 the ways of these infernal devices! 614 615 As I clean this table I wonder at the deep marks that have been scored 616 across it's oaken surface. It seems that one patron has lifted his voice in 617 criticism of others, and another has jumped to his feet in chivalrous 618 defense of the Lady D's honour (honor? I too was taught to spell it that 619 way, and though I know the forms accepted in this country, I often find 620 myself returning to the ways of my youth). Gentlemen, please! Sometimes 621 the best way to take such commentary is merely to ignore it if you find it 622 overly bothersome. I'm sure my friend D understands. And Sir Alert, you 623 say that your remarks should be taken in the vein they were meant, but I 624 find that the vein was not clearly defined. Your original message told of 625 errors and mistakes, but since it wasn't specific as to what they were, the 626 tone came across as derogatory rather than constructive. Perhaps future 627 commentary should give the incorrect words, rather than the pointing finger. 628 629 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]PAM?[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 629